Hey Guys This has proberbly been discussed before stock vs aftermarket sway bars, I heard that the stock ones are pretty good. Is it worth replacing them? Im sick of crappy handling.. Car is 92 TT - Blistein Coilovers - UAS front strut bar - Random rear strut bar They have helped but overall it still feels like its not attached to the road.. Any advice ppl?? Cheers
More info? You have only provided a list of brand names without any information whatsoever on the specification of the parts! Contact SPL in the USA, give them your credit card details, tell them you want your car to handle better & to send out a kit with detailed instructions for setting up the car. Tell them you want the "Burger with the lot kit". When the parts get here, fit them & you will have one of the best handling Z's in Australia. Then you can post about what tyres to get.
+1 Plus you're gonna need tyres that can keep up with the added stiffness. On street tyres while the car may be stiff, the tyres will lose traction earlier unless you're running very high quality rubber. I had swaybars at some stage, average every day use tyres because back then it was a daily driver. the swaybars just made the car too twitchy w/ hard coilovers and the tyres gave way sooner. For street, one or the other, you really don't need both. For track with sticky tyres, by all means, get a whiteline set.
+1 I drove bRACKET's Z32 with Whiteline bars and HKS coilovers set to max stiff. With bald tyres on the rear (wog burnouts) I spun it in the wet just casually driving at roughly the speed limit. Shat myself; the car just gave way WAY too easily. I've since installed Whitelines myself and to combat this personally am running soft coilovers (Powertrix) and have stiffened the hell out of the chassis. Remember the stiffer your suspension the more load is transferred into the body - firm up the body and some of that force goes into the suspension again (i.e you get some body roll back [less stiffness]).
Personally, if I had my time again, I would go HD swaybars and a softer shock/spring combo. Springs and swaybars both effect bodyroll. If both are uber stiff you get no roll and a really harsh ride (so much so Cara would not ride in my zed). So go one or the other. Will stiffen things up and still be able to absorb bumps. Unless racecar. Because racecar.
Not sure of the bilsteins, Second hand, was very stiff compared to factory! - Rear end was rebuilt by UAS when first purchased - Tyres are solid but I forget what they are.. It feels like chasis stiffness is the problem, What are the best mods for this? I think I need a senior forum member to take my z for a spin and tell me whats wrong!! Any takers. Sydney city area Cheers
When combining a larger swaybar with stiffer springs, you lose the advantage of an independent suspension. Too stiff, you lose grip even though it feels like it handles better Independent suspension is what provides more grip of tyre to pavement swaybars transfer load variation due to surface bumps, from one tyre to the opposite tyre. This is the biggest ill effect. Having stiff springs and minimal bars, will make the car more sensitive to bumps that hit both wheels at the same time.(independant) I still have stock sway bars with 8/6. BUT On a street car you would run softer springs and bigger sway bar . you get a comfortable ride on shitty roads with less roll. win/win in saying that my RE teins with eibach springs has an amazing ride on the street compared to my sons super bumpy BC coilovers with the same spring rates .
So does this mean running Tein Monoflex Coilovers with Whiteline sway bars on a convertible is a bad idea? The Monoflex Coils are F/R 9k/7k.
This is the exact combo that Mike was running that made him go back to stock swaybars Erik, I'd try it without the swaybars & see what you think. If you think you could handle it a bit stiffer chuck the whitelines on. I don't mind the ride with the whitelines & my hipermax 2's with 7/6 but didn't rate it with my old hipermax 1's that had 10/8, hence the change.
Erik I assume you bought these mono flex ex-Japan? Just throwing it out there, but why don't you send them to Fulcrum for some 7/5 springs and matching valves? Gonna cost you a little but hey you only have to do it once, and it seems you've been spending a bit on the car lately so may as well get it right...
Yeah, will have to try that mate, thanks. Yeah mate, ex Japan. Might look into that after I try the monos without the bars and see how it goes. Don't know much about suspension but its something I want to get right. What I guess I was hoping was due to the verts flex (not crazy but it's more than the other zed variants), the bars would help in some way and wouldn't impact the chassis as much as it does the stiffer targas and slick tops while having stiffer springs, unless I'm looking at it wrong. The only aftermarket suspension and body parts to do with handling I have are; Whiteline Sway Bars (Front and Rear) Carbing Strut Braces (Front and Rear) Cusco Tension Rods SPL RUCAs
