Hi guys, Im looking at getting aftermarket sway bars & end links. I thought i might ask here to confirm. 1) What is the part number for the Stillen Front Sway Bar? I can only find part numbers for both the front & rear sway bars togther. Can it be bought on its own? 2) I have a whiteline rear sway bar which from my research is 3 point adjustable & 21mm...will this work with the powertrix rear sway bar end links for adjustable sway bars? On their site it says it will fit side mounted sway bars, but are whiteline sway bars side mounted or top mounted like oem? 3) Whiteline front sway bars are 27mm whereas ST & Stillen (supposedly the same, just a sticker added) are 28mm, so is the ST front sway bar the better option as it is also the cheaper option? 4) ST & Stillen are 2 point adjustable in the front & 3 point adjustable in the rear...are the whiteline sway bars the same? 5) From Anti's recent thread, the general consensus was SPL front sway bar end links & Powertrix rear sway bar end links....COZ lists some aswell, are they any good? 6) Nismo lists a front sway bar for the zed & ive found a part number but not much information on them...anybody know how many mm they are & how much it is adjustable? Thanks in advance, Abraham
OMG - so many questions I can tell you only some things. Whiteline are top/ saddle mounted just like o.e.m. Sway bars actually differ in sizes depending on where the car is manufactured - i.e. european / j-spec as well as other considerations etc so decisions need to be relevant to the type/ model and components of the car itself. i.e. my rear sway is 21mm There is a difference in some sway bars even though they are the same - i.e. a mandrill swaybar is different than a cold roll swaybar or hot forming swaybar, there are even solids and hollow swaybars. So the size of the swaybar does not dictate how good it is but rather is just one of the many considerations. Indeed even a thicker swaybar does not mean it is better as it must considered in the context of the entire cars suspension components such as size of the other sway bar and size of coils/ depth etc etc - The difference could result in either oversteer or even understeer as just one example. Anti has delved and studied a lot into suspension - haha - so he will be helpful in answering some of these questions Sorry I cannot help more, but your asking what is a very hard set of questions that have many variables. Not to mention that suspension is a scientific "blackart" in itself - hence why racing suspension engineers at the same racetrack all often have different components - its gets even worse know that drivers have different styles and preferences such as some like it tight at the rear as it goes faster whereas some like it looser at the rear as its more controllable. I think you are better off listing every suspension component and your personal preferences if your going to attempt to ask these questions here, otherwise your better off seeing a suspension expert that does it solely for a living e.g. an old experienced mechanic from centrepoint steering would probably be able to guide you in a total sense Not helpful I know but some of your questions I dont know, wouldn't propose to know and just cannot answer given the variables Some people should be able to help out more with some of the questions though Cheers
Rob im going to get the Tein Street Advance Coilovers which have 7/5 spring rates Jamie i currently already have the whiteline rear sway bar which is 21mm, ive also got the powertrix rear sway bar end links for aftermarket sway bars...which im guessing wont work as whiteline bars are the same as oem with top mounting rather than side mounting like ST & stillen? Abraham
Why not email a Stillen supplier and ask? You could try http://www.conceptzperformance.com Or get all crazy and try http://www.stillen.com No it will not work the whiteline rear bar mounts as per OEM. Powertrix make a suitable product. Whiteline front sway bars are 27mm whereas ST & Stillen (supposedly the same, just a sticker added) are 28mm, so is the ST front sway bar the better option as it is also the cheaper option? From memory whiteline are 3 point adjustable in the front. It may pay to look at the whiteline catalogue and confirm. There's all sorts of info here http://www.whiteline.com.au/do_segu..._final=300ZX+Z32+(FAIRLADY)&vehicle=7/89-3/97 I am using Powertrix front links. The rosejoints are good quality and Teflon lined and from mucking around under the car loading up different sides I don't experience problems with the joints binding. That said you seem like a V drinking kinda guy so maybe spend a little more on SPL to be safe. Why not contact a Nismo supplier and ask?
Rob i have already asked & am waiting for a reply from a Nismo supplier but thought there isnt any harm in asking here as maybe somebody might know the answer already...is there? Same with the Stillen bars, ive emailed them but hadnt gotten a reply, so i thought i would ask here to see if maybe somebody might have it...again, nothing wrong with asking is there? I actually dont drink V or any other energy drinks or protein shakes or any soft drinks for that matter so i guess your observation of me is obviously wrong lol so i have no idea how any of that is in relation to end links lol I did have a look at that before posting...the pic they have as well as some of the pics on google show 3 holes for adjustment..however they have "With OE tube 27mm - 2 point adjustable" hence my question Abraham
It's a rut big phrase. If the whiteline site wasn't clear I'll get a pic for you tonight. If they advertise 2 way blade adjustable it's a pretty safe bet that's what you get -give them a call? Parts/catalogues can and do change so google image search isn't the most reliable option, nor comparing to parts purchased years ago
Rob i think im too young to understand that phrase lol I wasnt just going by their catalogue or google images...i found some pics of them with 2 holes & some with 3 holes, hence why the confusion...maybe they have changed over the years? Abraham
Haha I see what you did there.... I'm sure the whiteline front bar I have is 3 way adjustable but if they're saying 2 way on the website I can only assume their new stick is 2 way. If you need further clarification you should be approaching whiteline not asking in the forum -none of us work at whiteline. Also re your other question assuming all other things being equal a 28mm hollow tube is going to have greater torsional rigidity than a 27mm hollow tube. Whether or not this is a "good thing" in your application depends on a range of factors.
Haha i try Rob i have indeed emailed them so just waiting for a reply...just confusing as their pic shows 3 points of adjustment where they mention 2 points instead...i can basically get either the ST or the whiteline bars for around the same price, so its just a matter of which is better...is oem bars hollow aswell or solid? Abraham
Solid. Tubular swaybars are almost exclusive to racecars. I think you might be over analysing your suspension requirements and getting a little dazzled in science M8. Just go with one manufacturer. Whichever one results in the most street cred or whatever that gives you a stiffy and use their set. Adjustable or not is more or less academic. You wont feel much difference in the "seat of the pants" from full stiff to soft setting driving around at sane speeds and the only way to tell if you actually improved anything is by subjective testing on a race track. Drive on!! E
I doubt that anyone running these blade adjustable sway bars actually climbs under their cars to adjust them on a regular basis if ever... It's purely marketing in 99% of applications
well its basically designed to take any preload out of your swaybars at static height. Isn't it? So why adjust it more than once.. unless other changes are made that affects it.
Total B/s items, a/m sway bars and end links that is, there unnecessary for a road car in every way. [TIS]
Nah, talking about tubular plain bars and adjustable blades for variable roll stiffness. Not the end links on stock bars. E
