replacing clutch on a N/A

Discussion in 'Technical' started by Mr 0uch, Sep 6, 2010.

  1. Mr 0uch

    Mr 0uch Bare footed zman

    replacing clutch on a N/A (help)

    hey guys, need to clear this up. been searching the forums to find some direction but still have some grey areas.

    im looking at buying another zed, got my eye on one for a cheapish price, mind you it is a bit of a fixer upper.

    took it for a drive last week, as the owner stated the clutch slips.. turns out a lot haha.

    going from first to second with some revs, say changing up at 4500rpm then letting the clutch go results in a slipping feeling/sound then finally grabs again and you're off!


    before i do make the plunge i would like to know what im getting into here.

    ive never done this sort of thing before, im only young you could say :p but i have done a few things around cars before (head removals, engine reco's, simple bolt on parts ect ect)

    looking at the cost vs time factor in doing it myself and getting a mechanic to do it for me.

    As far as i understand, should also replace the following since the box will be coming out..
    clutch/flywheel
    throw out bearing
    clutch pivot ball stud
    rear main bearing-engine
    front/rear gearbox seals

    what am i missing here??

    ideally id love it not to cost an arm and a leg (maybe around $1000) trying to save money for the big move to uni next year, but am working this year full time to get somthing behind me.

    looking at getting somthing like this here seems to be an ok price. thoughts on quality?

    how much roughly would the parts listed above cost?
    how much would a mech charge me for installation?

    would love to do it myself, learn a few things and get to say i fixed it myself on my car. but if its gonna take me ( and a few mates) more than a weekend to do i might have to give it a miss.

    hope you guys can help me:)
     
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2010
  2. ichizora

    ichizora Loud

    I've read a few good things about eBay clutches here but by another brand - "F1 racing clutches" or something like that. When I changed my clutch I also upgraded to a lightweight chromoly flywheel and installed a new 1-piece driveshaft too :D
    To give you an idea of the time, it took Chris and I 8 hours with no breaks to install everything... half the time was just trying to take off the rusty exhaust bolts
    Mechanic would charge something like $300-$400 labour... better to learn how to do it yourself imo :zlove:
     
  3. Mr 0uch

    Mr 0uch Bare footed zman


    nothing a few cans of crc and a really long handle spanner cant fix ;)

    $400 is wayy to steep lol. might have to get the boys around to mine and get into it if i do get the zed :cool:

    i have also seen the "f1" brand on ebay, ill have a look at some of there kits aswell


    were can i order parts and find prices to such as what i stated above? (seals ect ect)
     
  4. ichizora

    ichizora Loud

    Yep, I've racked up a pretty neat collection of WD-40 lol
    Tech section is your friend ;)
    Clutch replacement #1 incl. part numbers
    Clutch replacement #2
     
  5. Mr 0uch

    Mr 0uch Bare footed zman

    ahh there we go! thats what i need! cheers mate :)
     
  6. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    $400 isnt way too steep considering the exhaust has to come off and the drive shaft then the gear box and starter motor. Then fit up the clutch, change the fluid and bleed the system put the rest back. Then potentially have to adjust the clutch pedal assembly. This is quite a big job and about 5-6 hours work or more.

    What you mean is " I dont have $400 to spend to get a mechanic to do this"

    In fact, IF you could find someone to do this for $400 it would be a bargain provided they do it properly.
     
  7. Mr 0uch

    Mr 0uch Bare footed zman

    my point exactly ;)

    those tec articles with be a real big help, after reading them through shouldnt be to hard to do i think
     
  8. Sanouske

    Sanouske Retired Moderator

    Famous last words for someone who's yet to try a clutch replacement and find they've torqued the pressure plate down uneven, after attempting to drive it after installation.
    :eek:

    Its a bit note to remember. Follow the pattern when it comes to tightening the flywheel and pressure plate bolts.

    The pressure plate, if uneven, will make the clutch slip again, or have premature wear and failure. The pressure plate fingers should all be evenly aligned so that the throw out bearing can engage evenly.

    If there is a wave throughout the fingers, it will not engage and disengage properly. It applies uneven pressure to the clutch and warps it. Hence the slippage.
     
  9. z-alot

    z-alot Member

    I paid more like $600 in labour for my clutch, but mechanic did have to muck around with re-adjusting afterwards. $400 is very good price, but next time I would be keen in attempting myself.
     
  10. ichizora

    ichizora Loud

    Yeah, it takes some patience to align the pressure plate to the flywheel... it was actually quite frustrating for me:p
     
  11. Sanouske

    Sanouske Retired Moderator

    Normally its not that bad, but so far all my mates that have attempted it, have fuxed it the first time round.

    To date i will thank my dad for showing me as a little kid the ins and outs of clutch replacement and gearbox fixes. Along with all my other mechanical know how. So far, touch wood. Ive had no clutch installation issues.
     
  12. Madcow

    Madcow Active Member

    first clutch i installed, the pressure plate was too weak. came onto boost and slipped

    all the others i have done were fine. i think you guys are making it sound harder than it actually is?
     
  13. Sanouske

    Sanouske Retired Moderator

    Not at all, It really is an easy job. I agree with you entirely.

    Simple fact however, is if you've never seen it done or ever seen what it looks like/how it should look. The likelihood you will install it incorrectly is high.

    Its better to know what to expect if it's installed incorrectly, then after having done the job. 10thou kms later scratching your head as to why it needs it to be done again. Or why its felt like shit/abnormal.

    Also the time factor, first timers will take a while so to not get it wrong, taking time, time is money for some people. A simple misalignment or incorrectly torqued bolt can cause you to have to pull it all down again. I personally hate having to do the same job twice.

    Either way. It is like pie - nice and easy. Just keep an eye out. If it looks wrong, its probably because it is.

    :br: You'll be driving in no time!
     
  14. Madcow

    Madcow Active Member

    ok now i see where you are coming from.

    I mean if you are worried, take a pic of every part that comes off and where it was etc etc


    It will take 5 times as long, but it will be right. if it doubt see the pics.
     
  15. Sanouske

    Sanouske Retired Moderator

    The bloke speaks nothing but solid ideas.

    There have been more then one occasion that i took a pic so to reassure me for later if i cant remember how it pieces together.
     
  16. Mr 0uch

    Mr 0uch Bare footed zman

    best method for first time fixes. lol nothing worse than finishing a job only to have found some extra screws/bolts laying around :p
     
  17. Sanouske

    Sanouske Retired Moderator

    lol, its a zed, there will always be spare nuts and bolts left out.
     
  18. 300zxx

    300zxx New Member

    **** mine cost me $800 for every thing..
     

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