New Manifolds WTF

Discussion in 'Technical' started by ZX2NV, Apr 5, 2008.

  1. ZX2NV

    ZX2NV Z Racing Evolution

  2. NickTT

    NickTT L E X U S

  3. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    For 160 pounds plush shipping plus reinforcement i think you'd be close to the price of some MSP manifolds which we know flow great, fit properly, and are going to last.

    Don't waste your time.
     
  4. pexzed

    pexzed Forum Administrator

    I guess this says it all
     
  5. peter

    peter "Mostly harmless"

    They look very similar

    To a prototype set that i have from EGG
    This is his first setHere
    But his second prototype is damn near identical

    Do a search you should find some pictures of them
    He was also thinking of producing them for about $500 a set :eek:
     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2008
  6. ZX2NV

    ZX2NV Z Racing Evolution

    Thought it seemed to good to be true.

    I wonder how many guys actually supported there turbos with auxillary brackets? none by the look of it as most seemed to have cracked and even broken.
     
  7. ZEDZY

    ZEDZY Active Member

    They look like they have been soldered together. By the looks of things i wouldnt put these on a na, let alone a turbo.
     
  8. Egg

    Egg ....

    Like you can tell from pictures.
    Welding is first rate and they're made from extra thick SUS304
    Poorly decked though and still need a slight re-design by the looks of the pics.
     
  9. rollin

    rollin First 9

    wow i think they are cool. id just make an extra bracket for the turbos and they would be awesome
     
  10. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    How thick is extra thick? Are we talking schedule 40? That's the minium that I would want to hang a turbo off without some beefy bracktes...
     
  11. ZDUCTIV

    ZDUCTIV Active Member

    Log style and stainless steel don't really go together.
     
  12. rollin

    rollin First 9

    u reckon? i dont really see any dissadvantages and it is certainly an improvement over stock.

    What are your reasons
     
  13. ZX2NV

    ZX2NV Z Racing Evolution

    I would be interested to hear more about your manifolds Egg.

    Its strange when a newish product enters the market. Cheaper does not necessarily mean better or even as good as others however how many of those others are priced effectively for the market.

    There has been debates over radiators KOYO versus AMS versus PWR with varying veiws and debates. More recently over the AMS and MSP manifolds.

    For the money I am almost convinced to grab a set and check em out first hand. Yes they are not cast and may need some strengthening up or small mods to fit but may be a viable option to people who cannot afford to spring for the more expensive options available, on the flipside they may actually be half decent.
     
  14. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    You know there's an old saying about things that seem to good to be true and I think it applies more so with forums and ebay

    $160GBP plus shipping (say $20GBP) works out to just under $400 AUD. Then add the cost of your brackets/supports, labour required finding out where to put said brackets/supports/etc and i reckon you'd be close to the $1000 or less you can pick MSP manis up for.

    Stainless manifolds have been tried before and bottom line is no good.
     
  15. rollin

    rollin First 9

    Im not here for another flame way but 400 is along way from 1000, alot of people who would buy these would fit them themselves so the bracket would be no problem.

    The real bottom line is - Stainless manifolds. ok if done properly
     
  16. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    Can anyone show me someone who has done this and found that it worked?

    Or is it more forum conjecture?
     
  17. rollin

    rollin First 9

    i dont know anyone who has done it but i dont think that is really the point
     
  18. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    Point is I know people who have cracked them hence saying they have been tried and tested and no good.

    You say no they are fine if done properly but can't show any examples of where this has actually been the case?
     
  19. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    Or you could always do my favourite, and what I will be doing, and that is get off your arse, buy a welder and make your own. No reason you can't make a quality set of manifolds in the shed.
     
  20. rollin

    rollin First 9

    no i dont have an example of those exact manifolds. But the theory is the same across any other type of thin walled manifolds.

    look how many sylines are getting around with top mount manifolds. thin wall stainless, heaps of those guys cracked them by not supporing the weight of the turbos.

    But there are alot of skyline owners who have ffitted them properly by taking the weight off the manifolds and putting expansion cuts in the face too where required
     

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