That is a bloody good question, how hot ? Anyone with a spare det sensor and an IR thermometer and a frypan ? Do an old Castrol demo, video please, don't be shy someone must know a nice girl that wants to be a movie star. It might even end up in the tech section and a new way to maintain the tech section YouTube hosted videos. Darwin clause, do it in a well ventilated space and avoid exposure to fumes and line pan with alfoil and do it when the wife is out. Caltex (Australian ad) 1961 [yt]1I5KzQSi65I[/yt]