Okies the the list below is what I just got from Concept Performance (120,000Mile kit) has 3 columns : 1st column: Concept Performance listed item 2nd column: NISSAN Name on item 3rd column: PART Number on item Timing Belt : Belt Timing : 13028-45P86 Timing Belt Tensioner : Tensioner Assy : 13070-45V04 Water Pump : Pump Assy-Water : 21010-22P27 Water Pump Gasket : Gasket-W/pump : 21014-V5002 Thermostat : Thermostat 76.5 : 21200-42L01 Coolant Bypass Hoses x2 : Hose Water : 14055-F6511 Variable Timing Control Springs x2: Spring-Tensione : 13072-45V20 Variable Timing Control O-rings x2: Seal-Oil Camsha : 01001-00191 Camshaft Seals x4 Crankshaft Seal x1 : Oil Seal-Crank : 13510-10Y10 Crankshaft Sprocket Spacers(F+R) : Plate-Crank Pul : 13022-45V00 Crankshaft Sprocket Spacers(F+R) : Plate-Crankshaf : 13023-45V00 Drive Belts : V Belt : A172M-59SSA-VW Drive Belts : V Belt : A192M-42LSA-VW Drive Belts : V Belt : A195M-97E0M-VW Crankshaft Sprocket : Gear Crank : 13021-16V10 Idler Pulleys, Timing Belt : Pulley A-Idler : 13077-F6510 Idler Pulleys, Timing Belt : Pulley A-Idler : 13077-F6200 Idler Pulley Studs : Stud : 13075-F6501 Idler Pulley Studs : Spacer-Chain TE : 13075-F6500 Idler Pulley Washers/Nuts x2 : UNLABELED Unorthodox Racing Pulley with 3 Belts : Nissan belts listed above Question is due to the fact I got 5 items with the CRANK SHAFT PART NUMBER and nothing for the Cams ... are the numbers the same??? I can't see that they would be.... help appreciated ..... Car is getting towed tomorrow for the installation and I need to know if I have to go to Nissan and get more seals... or should I just not do the Cam seals??
Sounds like you need 4 x cam seals Al Z32 13042N SEAL-OIL,CAMSHAFT Z32 12279N SEAL-OIL,CRANKSHAFT FRONT
Re: Sounds like you need 4 x cam seals Al ive also got this kit from concept zed and i couldnt see any differnce between my old 4 cam seals and the crank one.
Cam/crank seals the same 13042-42L00 Date:01.90 -01.94 VG30DTT Alternate part:13042-16V00 Pays to dig deeper in parts search :wacko:
Re Seals Document in Tech section on 100,000 Km service says that these seals are the same. Certainly they are the same size as I've just changed mine. I bought mine at CBC and they are identical seals. Whether Nissan stipulate a different rubber in the seals or a different tension in the pressure spring I don't know.
CBC is definitely a lot cheaper than Genuine When I did my 100K service I stuffed up when I put in the new crank seal. CBC had an identical seal for I think around $3.50, Genuine was $14. CBC has a huge listing for the Z32 for belts bearings and seals. Also, send CnsZ a PM, he works at a bearing shop and does great deals for forum members. Wish I knew about him when I did my service.
Thanks for the info guys... Car was meant to get picked up today... looks like it is going to be 2 - 2:30 tomorrow (Friday) now so looks like I am a definate OUT for the Sunday Cruize... Thanks again everyone.
Re: Cam/crank seals the same The number I have for crank is : 13510-10Y10 though which is different again..... also has no spring in the back of it if that is what "Vice" was talking about. All parts supplied in this kit are genuine Nissan.
Part no's The part 'description' no's I listed in my initial post are straight off parts fiche/FAST. Subsequent part no's & alternates are off Coz's computer. I'll run 13510-10Y10 thru FAST and see what it comes up with ... stay tuned.
13510-10Y10 is listed as Crank Seal No cross reference on FAST, as far as I can see, so maybe slightly different to cam seals ....? Coz cross-references the 2 seals though, so assume crank seal can be used for cams no prob. (?)
tazzie ... coz usually answers emails fairly quickly ..or phone him .. for a quick answer .. as he is the supplier ..????
Make sure you get the high temp ones.. (Viton, ACM) Or something of the sort. I know CBC try and sell the NBR (Nitrile) ones all too often. Just check the brand when you buy it (from CBC), if its NOK its basically the genuine seal, if it's KOK or some weird ass brand, I'd be a bit wary. All our cam/crank seals for every car are Viton (Reddish/Orange in colour). NBR one's will be lucky to see a year out before their lip goes rock hard. Cheers, Will
Confirmed by Coz 1 is for the Crank and 4 are for the cams Nissan Part number: 13510-10Y10 in a Nissan Sealed packet.
Confused about seals!! The seals I took out of my car which I was sure (not so now) were original were NOK AH2342F. These have the pressure spring around the circumference. The seal I bought from Nissan for the crankshaft is 1304216V00 even though the receipt states it as a camshaft oil seal which would indicate that Nissan Australia considers them the same. This seal also has the pressure spring. The seals I bought from CBC are 13042-42L00 and have the spring. But the ones from Coz doesn't have this spring it seems but relies perhaps on the elasicity of the rubber? What worries me after Will's comment above about nitrile is whether the CBC oil seals will do the job. The guy at CBC (the manager) assured me that they were definately for automotive use (I was worried about them being so cheap). Rob (K-zed) refers to the 13042-42L00 number earlier. Although I've changed the seals I haven't done much else to the car so I could change them again. Any comments will be gratfully accepted. Clive.
Re: Confused about seals!! yes it is confusing. I am going to take Coz's word for it. I am sure he has sent out a few.this is the email I sent and the reply These are the items TTZ quote as Cam Seals... but they do not quote Cranks seal anywhere I can find These are the items delivered to me : Oil Seal-Crank : 13510-10Y10 .... with and without flash ...
Yes Alan I am sure that Coz is right - it's the comment on the nitrile seals which has me confused. From what I can gather after looking through the Net most automotive oil seals are made from nitrile but the viton material that Will mentions seems a better material to use but it will probably make the seals more expensive. It seems to be a new material and able to handle greater heat. I think I will stick with what I have but and see how they go. Clive.
Hey Will thanks for this information - where did you get your viton seals from and what is the make and part number. I still might replace my seals if I think it is worth it. But I still get the impression that most oil seals sold are made from nitrile but I could be wrong. Cheers. Clive.
thanks for that tazzie .. will need to check my kit from coz 2morrow.. to ensure that it is the same ... my zed goes into gavin wood on wednesday for the 100kkm sevice .. will let you know if there are any complications ...
Re: Confused about seals!! The seals from nissan (that i received from coz) all had springs on the inside.
Here are some specifications... Nitrile - Good to temps of about 105 Celcius.. Viton - Good to continuous temps of 200 C and intermittent temps of 315 C. Polyacrylate - Good to temps 175 C Viton is usually reddish in colour. Nitrile is Black. And Polyacrylate is a more shiny black. Kinda difficult to tell the difference between those last two. All oil seals have the spring loaded lip. I can guess that our Viton seals are probably around the $5-6 mark, not overly expensive. But our Polyacrylate seals are cheap as, and will do the job. Thats what the NOK seals are made of. So I wouldn't be too worried if the CBC rep told you that they are the automotive ones. I have had trouble sometimes with them "listing" nitrile seals for cam and crank applications, which I wouldn't recommend for any car. Hope this helps, Will
