hahaha, notice the only american cars they use to compare against are the BIG MUSCLE V8's?? and they even compare them to the Civic. - bit of a stupid comparason to me. And you don't see them comparing any of their American 4 or 6 cylinder cars agains the ricers, cause they probably would start loosing. Almost like comparing a Nifty-Fifty scooter with a GSXR1100 - who the f*ck do you think is gonna win... :wacko: I'm with you Zzz, stupid yanks! :LOL: My AU$0.02
I can't understand why Americans seem to think it ALL happens in a quarter-mile! Sure, drag racing is fun, but what happens if you want to drive from New York to Washington, or Sydney to Melbourne. Sure, the first 440yards go by really quickly, but are you going to maintain that pace for the next 700km. And how comfortable are you going to be in a lump of US Iron. And, WHAT IF YOU WANT TO STOP?
Those numbers look fair enough...... Low 13 and high 12 are pretty common for stock american sport cars. The Cobra is usually on par with C5 Zo6 vettes in the high 12. The fbod twins are regarded as a low 13 (some even high 12) stock. Even the Pontiac GTO (low 13sec) performs better than its aussie monaro, this is mainly due to its better gearing. GTOs along with current mustangs and SRT8s are all low 13 sec cars stock. Step up a little bit more and your into the C6 Vette Zo6, Ford GT, viper et al. territory. American cars usually have big displacement engines producing large amount of torque. The pontiacs and the chev all use the LS1 engine (LT1??) and has similar hp/torque rating. The only difference between the four would be their state of tune. The GTO, firebird and camaro all have under rated power figures. This is mainly done for marketing reasons and to appease vette owners. These muscle cars are much much cheaper in america than they are here in australia. On the flip side, Japanese imports are usually much more expensive?? and rare in american than they are in australia. In the "bang for your buck" comp american cars would have a clear advantage over most jap cars, especially in parts/performance parts cost. Lets put it this way. It would cost 5-7K to double the power output of an LS1/2 engine (350-400hp stock) - no NOS. Its pretty hard to achieve this with the imports. This is also the main reason why people use the LS1/2/7 for most engine conversions,rangine from MX5s, S15, 300zx, Skylines, RX7s, BMWs etc. The milage is also pretty accurate. Tall gearing and abundant torque helps the V8s get great fuel consumption. OHV engines, especially the LSx have excellent fuel consumption, moreso with better tuning.
I agree with the comment about other than straight line performance too Fraid that unless the car can take a corner at speed it needs A LOT of power to match something that can. He also completely ignores the fact that the jap manufactures are unable to produce a car with more than 220kw due to laws in japan. I especailly liked his comment about the RB26DETT
Relove the comparison between a 10 sec drag mustang with a 10.ltr boss engine, vs the mclarin f1.. they claim the mustang has a better 0-100.. well no SHIT!! the mustang is on 10" slicks while the mclaren is just a road car, comfortable, quiet, civilized, not deafening and drinks 10ltrs per 20km.. oh and the f1 could double the speed of the mustang on ANY CORNER.. the site is just hugely biased, not to mention alot of the figures for the jap cars were just plain wrong, and they go on to say yeh 280hp for the rb26, you call that powerfull? designed as a race engine?? with great sarcasim, do these idiots know, or do they just not want to know, they are de tuned for the gentlemens agreement, and with 5k spent can be easily up'd to 450hp.. not to mention the technoligy on those engines is somewhat 17 yrs old now.. annoys me at how closed minded some idiots are..
Re: but what happens if you want to drive from New York to Washington COMFORT WISE USE THESE CARS CHARGER SRT8 425hp 420 lb-ft of torque Low 5sec 0-60 Mid 13sec 1/4 mile 300C SRT8 425hp 420 lb-ft of torque Low 5sec 0-60 High 13sec 1/4 mile CADILLAC CTS-V 400hp 395 lb-ft of torque Low 5sec 0-60 Low 13sec 1/4mile PONTIAC GTO Low 5sec 0-60 Low 13sec 1/4 mile
unless the car can take a corner at speed it needs A LOT of power to match Most of those can handle.....The fbod, mustangs, vettes can definately take corners at speed. eg. stock C6 Zo6 Lap time Car Driver 7:42.9 - Corvette Z06 - Jan Magnusen closest Jap car would be the highly modified 750hp Supra. Lap time Car Driver 7:50 Blitz Supra (750hp) Herbert Schuerg Unable or unwilling? Ive heard that the Jap performance engines have a very hard time at passing american and european emissions laws. Also that gentlemans agreement ended long ago. Believe it or not but those old push rod engines are actually (in america anyway) better and easier to modify. Most american sport cars (esp GM) are also under rated.
But they look so DAMN UGLY!!!!! (Bit of a Rant) Hey guys who cares how fast your car is if your too embarresed to be seen driving in it because its so God Damn Ugly!? Don't get me wrong there will always be room in my dream garage for a big arse burbling V8, we love em for their sound and their ability to smoke the tyres to the rims... BUT to compare the handling prowess of your average run of the mill Mustang or whatever to the Japenese is laughable at best.... to the Germans....well that, my friends, is sacrilige.. Lets face it the most popular motorsport code in the US is racing around in a big oval for extended periods of time. Can anyone say F1, WRC, Le Mans?!!! I can't think of too many genuine competitors who come from the land of MickeyD's and Krispy Kremes... Its the Europeans and the Japanese who dominate in these sports because they know how to make a car go round a track fast. The US auto industry is falling on its arse because of (a) its auto industry union and (b) it makes shit looking, petrol burning cars that not even the most patriotic Apple pie munching Seppo in the country will tolerate. American racing engineers are somewhat of an oxymoron these days...sure they can build the engine but they look offshore for chassis design and suspension work...and they shore as hell won't hire an american to drive them.... Ahh I feel...lighter
i agree turbo 6's are deffentatly the best all rounder:thumbsup::zlove: They are fast in a straight line They are fast around a track They handle well They don't chew copious amounts of fuel They look sexy And have the yanks ever thought of power to weight? an sr20dett in a small, light car IS VERY F-ING FAST Also they forgot to menton that jap cars can be customised to your needs. Take the GT-R, you want it to go faster in a straight line than put a big FO turbo on it, you want it to handle better well chuck on some coil overs and some better rubber ect you get my point. :zlove:
the Yanks arnt stupid! Check This Out!Check this out its pretty scary the figures are all actually corrected. and its not even 2006 current either the new c6 zo6 would easily give any jap sports car a good run for its money stock vs stock but im on the side fence i like both cars my time spent!:LOL:
the Yanks arnt stupid! or the mosler with a very similar engine to your everyday Holden V8 (LS1 and LS6 are both gen III), or the Ford GT, or the Saleen (again with a chev V8 similar to HSV's upcoming LS7 engine), or the multitudes of vipers and cobras.
Re: the Yanks arnt stupid! I find it amazing that the 68 Cuda (426 hemi v8) is faster than the Bugatti Veyron (W16 Quad turbo) in the quater mile. I appricate alot of v8 cars etc, they are impressive. But I dont like the Americans styling of cars, and the size/weight they make them. Overall my engine of choice is a 6 cylinder. I guess its the happy medium between a 4 and a 8.
Just drove 05 'Stang from Miami to LA 2005 Mustang, was only the 6 cylinder version and not the GT. I was impressed by the car, it had some balls but not as much as my zed did. I wonder if the V8 version would bring it to the zed? It was really comfortable and handled really well. In many ways it was a nicer driver than the zed, and build quality was better....but we're comparing cars that are 15 years apart. I travelled a little over 3,500 miles all up from and took about 7 days to do it. Drove through New Orleans which was interesting, it's a shell of a city now. Nearly had some hick in a pick up truck run into the back of me on a bridge when he didn't notice traffic stop, lucky he swerved at the last minute or I would have been screwed. I'd buy a new Mustang any day, or any of the new American muscle cars especially the new Challenger (except for the Pontiac GTO aka Monaro...LOL. The C6 Vette is sweet too!
