Yep all included, cooler, fittings, intake relocation (dual intake) etc Side by side term is a bit misleading IMHO -it's actually a vertical mount intercooler ie tanks are on the top and bottom instead of the ends. Smaller than most FMIC's but much more efficient as most of the cooling in an FMIC only happens in the top rows. Also lighter and less obstruction of airflow.
All the arguments Against typical front mounts cant be used with this one except that its in front of the radiator, however I have a 90mm thick front mount and never see water temps go over 86 degrees. I might see this at traffic lights on a mega hot day though. If your car has cooling problems because of a FMIC then I would think there is something wrong with the cooling system... I have a vented nose panel and a radiator air guide so that gets me plenty of fresh air direct to the radiator which would help a lot though.
Yes Certainly does help. I have always said in the past that if getting a FMIC of any sort, then upgrading the radiator, relocating the airpod(s), getting a vented nose panel, aftermarket front bar and getting a radiator air guide is a must to avoid taking a backward step (in reliability and performance). With the cost of radiators these days and the even cheaper prices offered in group buys, people would be silly not to get them if they already own or want a FMIC :zlove:
I guess what i mean is that i don't want to spend the money doing all that. That's why i'm pro-smics. So what i should've asked was "best value cooling option"
Spot on. Some cars can handle the extra load and some cannot so best to factor in other upgrade costs when looking at a FMIC as suggested by Shifter
not enough flow from stockies... i upgraded to trust smic's and engine's power band went from peaking at 5500 to easily blasting up to 6500 (with engine feeling and reving so much better!) Stockies are so restricting.
Are you increasing boost lem300? Forgot to ask... Are you increasing the boost in your car? Is that the reason for upgrading the coolers? Just wondering...because you only really need to upgrade coolers when you increase the boost level. If you're running stock boost then the stock coolers are fine... (Even though they are crap to begin with...lol ) But yeah...it's a big mistake a lot of owners make. They increase the boost to 6 or 7 psi over stock and don't change the coolers...Kinda like being in a room on a 40 degree day without aircon. And whether you upgrade to SMIC's or FMIC's; don't neglect the cooling system either way. You should jump in on the group buy for SMIC's. They are quite cheap and very large. Good luck with your choice anyway... Cheers Rob.
i have an fmic with stock radiator and i dont have any cooling problems.. i still have to put my koyo in though
Yes, but have you or do you plan to take your zed to a racetrack? That is where most front mount overheating problems have occured.
most likely wont take it to the track but im not always off boost either if ya know what i mean, so i gave it PLENTY of chance to get hot and she is still fine. Dunno guess it depends on the condition of your zed i guess
Yes i am increasing boost to about 14-15psi. Last time i raised the boost (to 13psi) the engine shit itself the first day i did it so i am learning from my mistakes and want to do it meticulously properly this time over. What do you mean by "neglecting the cooling system even if upgrading to smic's"? What else has to be upgraded?
