Cant get my head around this How do seatbelts work with fixed back seats if the belts are on the door ?
Yep... If you want to put the belts through the harness holes in the seats then mount the belts to the B-pillar like the '93+ cars.
Mount them in the same spot are mounted in, not sure if you need to drill holes into the framework, Chrispy or one of the others could confirm what process is needed.
I believe the holes are there but the threaded nuts are not. It's not a small thing -you'd need to change door cards and pillar trims as well unless you wanted it to look half done. Worth mentioning too that fixed back seats and a 2+2 would be an invitation for a defect.
lucky for me I have a 2 seater. but if its to much work then I may as well save the hassle and get reclinable seats
The holes in the back of the seat, they are for harnesses. The fixed back and reclining all have them these days. Your standard seatbelt is not to be used with those harness ports.
You might want to clarify your question. Are you talking about seat belts or a harness? I've got a fixed-back driver's seat and I'm able to use my door-mounted seatbelt just fine, I'm not sure what your issue is.
bro I mentioned the SEATBELT not a harness and I mentioned the belts are mounted to the door. how much more specific do I need to be
To clear up any confusion this is the hole I'm talking about. If the belt is mounted to the door at the bottom and goes through this hole then mounts to the top in theory you cant open the door. so relocating the belt to the B pillar like the 93+ models is the answer to my question. which I did not know prier to asking. thanks everyone Sorry Mikez32, Instamatic for the heated response, maybe I should have started the post like this. my bad, your alright mate
That too is for a harness. I have fixed back seats in my zed and my MX5. If using stock seatbelts you simply use them like you would with stock seats. If that's the seat you're trying to use then the side supports are high and the cushions are thin. Stock seatbelt probably won't be tight against your waist. If you're trying to get the buckle through the opening, that would really depend on what seat rail you're using. I'm using stock rails in both cars with fixed back adapters on them. Doesn't allow me to get the buckle through the opening though.
Apology accepted. You need to chill out a bit dude, we're only trying to help and vague questions only lead to confusion. Don't bite our heads off if we don't understand what you're asking or misinterpret it, it just reduces the likelihood we'll help you in the future. Anyway, like Mike said you don't use that hole for a standard seatbelt. On my seat I just put the lap part over the seat and into the buckle as per normal. It doesn't sit as tight across my lap as it would on a standard seat, but it will still do its job if I get in a crash. Again, I'm using a door-mounted seatbelt with no probs.
AGREED....... yeah I didn't think of the buckle not fitting through the hole. I am glad you mentioned the strap going over the side doesn't sit tight on your lap
For deep fixed back buckets the seatbelt can sit a bit funny. Through the holes it can be a bit more comfortable. And doesn't wear your fancy bucket seat raw
Here's a timely piece of advice from my school days(a long time ago). "Tis far better to remain silent, and be thought to be a Fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt". "I think there is something in that for all of us, don't you?":rofl::br: OK! I have my flak-jacket on and zipped-up.