Dogbox/Syncrobox Comparison.

Discussion in 'Technical' started by ztoy, May 14, 2014.

  1. ztoy

    ztoy Autospark Evolution

    I have recently purchased a PPG dogbox for the zed and as I was pulling it apart to swap the dog rings I thought Id open up a standard box for comparisons sake. I have to say that this thing is a serious bit of gear, I cannot tell you how impressed I am with it.

    I want to make a joke about it being "box" porn but im not going to grind your gears with gearbox puns :p


    Standard Box
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    Dog Box
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    Gear Ratios
    Firstly from the books the gear ratios are different. This box has 1-4th helical gear on dogs. 5th gear is standard.

    Standard.
    1st - 3.213
    2nd - 1.926
    3rd - 1.302
    4th - 1.000
    5th - 0.762

    PPG
    1st - 2.621
    2nd - 1.637
    3rd - 1.240
    4th - 1.000
    5th - 0.762


    Gear Width

    1st gear.
    STD - 21mm
    PPG - 29mm

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    2nd gear.
    STD - 21mm
    PPG - 29mm

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    3rd Gear
    STD - 24ish mm
    PPG - 28ish mm
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    4th gear
    STD - 28mm
    PPG - 29mm


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    Shifting mechanism.


    Syncro Box

    When syncro hub, syncro and actual gear line up the syncro coupler which is attatched the the selector fork can slide over and lock them to the gear.

    Not aligned (No shifty)
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    Aligned ( Can Shifty)
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    In gear (Shiftied)
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    Dog Box.

    Has 5 dog teeth on the gear and also on the shift rings between gears. No syncros so changes are made with quick, firm movements of the stick. With rev matching no clutch is necessary outside of 1st gear.


    Out of gear.
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    In Gear (aint no body got time for syncros) :p
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    A pics of the new dog ring that I'm putting in.

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    As I said before its a mean bit of gear (rated for 800hp) and Im looking forward to doing some 1/4mile runs with this thing in the car when I eventually finish it. The lower ratio of first gear will hopefully make it more usable with the NA diff.


    ztoy

    :zlove:
     
  2. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    PPG gears are quality .

    I have a set of PPG helical's at home ready to go in .


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  3. scottyoz1962

    scottyoz1962 Active Member

    Put that in the Yaris, and you can drag Mickey off at Willowbank.
     

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