1 piece tailshafts where to buy

Discussion in 'Technical' started by geron, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. geron

    geron National Petroleum Equipm

    I'll report on here once it's received and fitted. I have a feeling it will be OK though going by the reply received from Shaftmasters.
     
  2. Cove

    Cove Getting to be an old fart

    are you using flat steel washers or spring washers ??? :br:
     
  3. geron

    geron National Petroleum Equipm

    Not sure what type of washers are supplied with the shaft. Will see. But I will use whatever is supplied.

     
  4. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    From memory they're spring washers, will be in a pile under the car somewhere if anyone's really keen to check. It sounds like the supplier has come up with an "out of the box" solution, which really is the best scenario, but for anyone else looking into this I wouldn't let niggling details put you off. As above I would choose new rear uni and modify 6 washers to suit over recycling a used CV joint any day of the week.
     
  5. Waytipsy

    Waytipsy New Member

    I have used Gibbs Trucks in the past for a custom shaft. They did a great job and were really cheap (>10 years ago but).
     
  6. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    I bought a tailshaft from them a few years ago when I was stranded in Brisbane. Like an idiot I sold it and fit another C/F shaft, guess how that turned out...
     
  7. geron

    geron National Petroleum Equipm

    Tailshaft is here...

    Well, it's here already :)

    Some photos so that you guys can see what you get from Shaftmasters.
    Initial inspection... it looks good to me! Comes with Allan Key bolts and spring washers. The CV joint end flange looks thin enough. I was expecting something majorly thick/bulky, but it looks great. Plenty of room for washers & etc...

    My goodness at how small this thing is in terms of diameter and total length. The weight also @ 5.85Kg, it's amazing.

    Here are some photos.

    Very well packaged:

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    So far so good. The next step is to see how it performs on the car.
    Once fitted, I'll get back on here and do a conclusion for anyone that may be interested.

    Peter
     
  8. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    Just so's you're aware when you're fitting this thing... the thin flange is part of the problem. The flange on the shaft sits inside the flange on your differential, and the edge of the differential flange actually sits proud (slightly higher) than the flange on the shaft. So when you go to fit the bolts the washers foul on the edge, making it feel tight when it's not. Hope that makes sense.
     
  9. geron

    geron National Petroleum Equipm

    It's in...

    The tailshaft is finally in.

    For anyone interested, you can see there are no problems with flanges with screws and washers. It's truly plug and play. Awesome in my opinion. Highly recommended.

    I will say I am a one piece convert. No vibrations. Nothing.

    I can say this is one area that will not have to be revisited again on the Z with a high degree of confidence.

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    Peter
     
  10. geron

    geron National Petroleum Equipm

    Why Nissan didn't do it this way to begin with is beyond me.
    This is a small shaft, length wise, and completely eliminates vibration.
    Also, in terms of snapping for whatever reason and going nuts underneath the car and catapulting the car to oblivion is not going to happen.

    Underneath this, there is a heat shield with a U groove in it.
    Underneath the heat shield is the exhaust system.
    Also a Z forum member here that I know uses an AL driveshaft on his Z with much, much more power compared to mine and no problems and has been using it for a long time now.
    I'm sure there are heaps of other Z owners with them OR steel units. If snapping was an issue, we ALL would know about it by now.

    I was thinking of using the centre bearing frame as a 'safety loop' (By gutting out the centre bearing and rubber from the OEM tailshaft) as a precautionary measure but didn't see the reason in doing so.

    Perhaps Nissan stuck with the two piece design due to rear-end collisions making it safer if the car gets heavily rear ended or front ended perhaps.

    But then again, I believe they went to a one piece on the 370Z and GTR35.
    So at some stage they must have thought changing to a 1piece is better. Perhaps the tailshafts on the 370 and R35 are so short that a 2 piece would have been ridiculous. Who knows :W:

    Oh yeah, in terms of performance, I can't tell much difference compared to OEM. Perhaps b/c my car is Auto (with moded vlv body) and it's inherently gentler on the running gear by providing a smooth power delivery compared to a manual. Then again, I don't drive it like I stole it. I reckon a steel 1 piece unit would not be much different to the AL.
    I almost forgot to add. No noise whatsoever coming from the AL unit. No ringing, nothing.

    That's all I can think off.

    Peter
     
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2016
  11. JRhys

    JRhys Member

    Looking to buy one of these, does anyone know if I was to purchase a one piece shaft for a Manual NA 2+0 Z32 and then later fit a twin turbo engine could the same one piece shaft be used?
     
  12. Fists

    Fists Well-Known Member

    Yep, keep the same diff (most people do) and it'll fit exactly the same.
     
  13. JRhys

    JRhys Member

    Perfect! that's exactly what I wanted to hear :)
     
  14. JRhys

    JRhys Member

  15. Fists

    Fists Well-Known Member

    Just the diff flange and a little length, as above, buy to suit the diff that will be used.
     
  16. Fists

    Fists Well-Known Member

    Oh, and in the US all TTs are assumed to be 2+0, 2+2 TTs weren't sold in their market.
     
  17. JRhys

    JRhys Member

    Ok great I will go with the first one as a NA diff will be used.
     
  18. geron

    geron National Petroleum Equipm

    Mine is 2+2 but...

    in the US, they sell every possible configuration. 2+2, 2+0, Auto, manual, AL, Steel etc...
    On the Shaftmasters site for example, just choose the appropriate tailshaft required. There's a lot for the Z32 and great reviews also!
     
  19. B-Line

    B-Line Older junior member

    What was overall cost of shipping?
     
  20. JRhys

    JRhys Member

    Shipping was $134.40 via UPS though I think that is US not AUD though.
     

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