down the quarter i beat my friends not stock r34 gtst (11PSI - INTERCOOLER - AIR FILTER - CAT BACK) with my stock z31 - t and stock z32 - tt. even when he got a better start i reeled him in quite easily. to get them quick you need a new turbo, there is not other way to keep up with wrxs and mildly modified zeds on a stock turbo... i know think because my friend is saving all his money to get a new turbo kit for his r34 because he gets left behind myself and my other friends modified wrx.
has to have been something wrong with that z32, stock they will do a low 14 to high 13 depending on driver, stock r33 will do a low 15.. for a 33 to beat the z32 must've been in saftey boost/maps etc..
REALLY!?! The Z must have been absoutlely ROOTED! My sister's boyfriend bought a stock mint R33 a few weeks ago, on par with performance with my NA.
honestly the zed must have had problems i dragged my mates r33 turbo...hey had pod, exhaust, and some other small things....mine was stock (everything bar a pod) and i presume at the time my commpression wasnt the best because now my engine is stuffed and we raced about 6 mths ago... anyway long story short is car now has a new asshole
Stock for stock the RB20DET has no chance vs the VG30ET, a GTR on the other hand you'll need a few mods to take him down! The Z31 is extremely reliable aslong as you take care of the basic maintenance when you first get it as you would have to with any older car. I've driven Z31's daily for 4 years, the only thing that's EVER left me stranded was a dead alternator. Parts arent impossible to find, you just have to order alot of the stuff in as Nissan doesn't keep most of it in stock locally because they are so rare. I drive past many a garage queen Skyline every single morning in my area in the Z31! lol 300ZX's in general aren't the easiest cars to work on, although the DETT is alot more labour intensive. They're not the kind of cars you give to some random workshop and say go nuts, that's for sure. Just buy what you want to buy, the most people with an opinion about this (i.e your workmates) dont know the first thing about the car. They can be VERY quick with minimal mods, and the VG30ET is famous for it's reliability. Anyone who claims otherwise doesnt know what they're talking about. As for value, I have my 89T insured for about the same as most Z32s with the exception of a few highly modified/mint examples... I love all Z's, just choose the car that's right for you. If you wanna make it go faster, http://www.redz31.com/turbofaq/turbo.faq.htm <- heres some good reading.
I find that hard to believe, an r33 gtst is 180+Kw stock, an n/a z32 with mods, if i remmember correctly according to the dyno sheets i looked at FROM THIS FORUM was 130+KW... how is it that it is faster? yet less powerful and weighs more? what boost is the z32 meant to hit? i will have to give mine a nice run and see what it hits, you have all got me scared now..
actually a stock r33gtst will do 14.3-14.6, my brother in laws TT zx done exactly 14.5 i dont think an n/a will come anywhere near that. edit : Also, ide be happy to be proved wrong as i pick up my tt zed tuesday / wednesday and ive been thinking im gonna be left behind by all my mates who have r33's, so if i can be proved wrong, ill be happy lol.
the z32 na is 166kw at the engine kilowatts stock and the r33 gts-t is 186 engine kilowatts stock that equates 2 roughly the same HORSEPOWER at the wheels, within a few hp, so thats 166 rwhp for the z and 186 rwhp for the skyline..... the z however has the advantage of not having lag like in a r33 gts-t, and also has a little extra torque at the bottom of the rev range to het it moving..... the gtst and na z would be pretty close to the same down the quarter mile if both were stock , though i would expect the r33 to have a few tenths on it by the end, maybe .3 or .5 of a second if both were driven well the tt z can and will eat a r33 gts-t alive, and if it doesnt then the driver needs more practice!!
Thanks 300zxt for that insight, been waiting to hear from a Z31 owner! only problem i have with my family friends Z31 is the automatic transmission as i hate autos, although a good mate of mine has found another Z31 Cali in his area with a for sale sign on it, not sure if its manual or auto though, will check it out. Driving the Z31 daily how is it on juice? i read a report in modern motor april 1988 and it said that the Z31 auto consumed 15.8L/100kms on highway cycle. As to the labour on a Z32 im a mechanic by trade specialising in european cars (particularly Jaguar, Porsche and Aston Martin and also Rover/MG) but i prefer a car that i dont have to open the bonnet on often and something thats easy to work on when i have to. The bloke who usually helps me with my cars said that if i got a Z32 he wouldnt touch it and that to remove the engine u need to remove the front 1/4 panels (is this true?) Which ever way i go the Z will be a weekend/bad weather car as my bike is gonna take over as my daily commuter vehicle. And if anyone knows of somone after a Skyline point them to my ad in thte non z related classifieds. For the record last dyno day i took my 33 to it pulled 156.4RWKW on stock boost with FMIC which is aroud 210kw@flywheel and last trip to the drags pulled a 14.2
yeah it's true, you also have to drop the diff and remove all 4 wheels to fit change a cd. last time i wanted to move my seat forward i had to drop the gear box and remove the windscreen wipers these car's are crazy. dude it's a car, you remove the engine the exact same way you do with all other car's. vizard, the amount of people saying that the z32 that got beaten by the 33 must be sick/broken is sorta proof that it's true.. and yes n/a zeds really do compare to 33gtst's. if your TT runs normal the way it's meant to (btw stock is 9 psi) it wont have a problem blowing the door's off gtst's.
I do not appreciate your sarcasm, its just a question. Have you removed an engine from a Z32? Cars are different, i remove a Boxster engine differently from a Jaguar V8 so its not all the same!
Alright im gonna have to check mine out then, does boost build up while driving the same way it does while revving in neutral? as in, can i just sit it there and rev it to see what boost it hits, or should i drive it ?
mate i think you have been mis informed by your friends the stock r33 gtst does the 1/4mile in low 15 high 14's the stock 300zx tt does the 1/4 mile in low 14's high 13's and with little bolts on like your mates rave about on their 33's these will have a much bigger effect on a 300 and infact you will be carving your mates up and down the 1/4 mile just a suggestion BRING someone along thats has technical knowledge with zeds from this forum. if you drive any and they "feel" slow then there is something very wrong with that example and i would avoid it. best of luck
My NA My NA gets 480 - 500 KMs on a full tank of juice as my daily city driver. 600+ on highway driving
dude he's joking around because it's silly to think that you'd have to remove the front quarter panels to take out the engine. I can't see any reason why you'd need to, my mechanic didn't have to when he took my engine out and there are many members on this forum who have done it themselves. Don't listen to any mechanic as gospel unless other zedders have been there and recommend, IMHO.
calm down i was only having a poke at your mechanic, bit of logic is needed with these car's.. engines are removed 1 of 2 ways.. either you lift them out or you remove the cradle and drop them out.. so yes you remove them with one of the 2 options just like every other car on the planet. Also i will add a bit of googling or poking around the aus300zx tech section is a great way to learn about these car's, i highly reccomend downloading the 'check list' off the tech site. look to your top left. boost wont really build up with no load on the engine in neutral, i have to rev it hardcore to even get my bov's to go off really quietly in neutral.. best way to see how what rpm's it builds boost at, would be to go WOT in 4th gear from around 2500rpm.. and fastest way to see would be 1st gear lol
hey mate, im sure wat you chose will be the right one, (thats if you get the Z32 ) Z31 are pretty reliable but, as stated, z31 parts are getting harder to come by and most arent in the best condision, pretty rare on finding one in reasonable nick, (thats from what ive seen for sale and on the roads in Vic) but if thats wat you truly want, good luck. the VG30 is pretty intimadating at first, but browse thought this site and ask the questions and you'll find its not as bad as its made out to be, most examples (NA's) will just need the 100k service and the car will be very good to you As for the off topic debate ive owned both, and driven a mint R32 gtst, all had engine rebuilds and similar K's, both very similar in a straight line, but the zed would kill it in into the first corner. plus the zed gets the cool factor, every man and his dog owns a skyline these days Sam
