ive come to the conlusion the stock z32 brakes are way too small

wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too small.. good for 100-0 but bad for anything above it
why did they release a car with its weight and power potential with such shitty brakes.. the speeds these car's can reach are just insane and the brakes are inadequate

 

yeah there good untill you start playing race cars and they get hot

1 stop from 180 is fine but after about 3 high speed stops they disapear , does any one think big cooling ducts would help?

 

just get some good pads. KEEP AWAY FROM EBC street pads

 

My zed has effective brake cooling ducts so maybe its something Nissan

recognised and updated on the series 2's. Appropriate quality pad and fluid for what you are doing, and I believe a slotted rotor to expel gasses is a good upgrade at minimal cost.
Im looking at Ferodo 2500's for track after lots of reccomendations from other performance/track car owners. Does anyone here use them??

 

See Trav, brakes are a very good upgrade too.

I see too many people try to get lots of go fast bits but forget about the basics like stopping. Hope you get some good brakes mate!:thumbsup:

 

2nd that!! Couldn't agree more. Although having good brakes doesn't

mean much on the street, reaction time and conditions are what matters most. Also you can stop a lot quicker without ABS so many things play a part in it. I think a 0.2 second slow reaction time in braking can make u stop up to 20f longer maybe more.


Endless pads are the best pads I have ever used!!

 

They could be better... but in all seriousness, they aren't that bad!

Anyone looked at what brakes a stock mkiv supra runs? :|

 

I use EBC yellow stuff pads, great for circuit, not good for street though

as they need to be worked hard before they start to bite.

 

Has anyone fitted the 350Z brakes

You can get an adapter that allows you to fit the 350Z Brembrow calipres and disks. Is it worth doing?
See Ya,
Garry

 

The 350Z Brembos will bolt straight on BUT have you priced them :wacko:

Get a quote on the calipers and you will see why nobody has used them.

When you get up to that price bracket most people opt for the Whizbang aftermarket kits (Stoptech/Wilwood etc)

 

Brakes

Mafi-zed not rocket science this. Zed TT brakes are the worst and smallest braking Jap import. Front are only 280mm x 30mm for 1600kg plus and that is without your Subs and bling and added power most have over stock. Recipe for disaster. In comparison R33 GTS-T 296 x 30mm and about 200kg lighter. Even the best pads going will fade especially at the track.


If yo really want to stop.
Front 365mm 6 piston


rear 330mm 4 piston.

 

You can stop alot quicker without ABS? Says who?

How do you figure mate, all ABS does is prevent a major lock up by replacing it with many little lockups. We all know once the cars locked up the braking distance is greatly increased. Theoretically if you could apply the maximum pressure to the brake pedal without initiating a lockup then yes you could stop quicker without using the ABS, however you'd have to be bloody good to perform such a braking method consistently, and your chances of perfoming it in an unplanned emergency are close to zero. You would be far better off to slam the brakes, let the ABS do its thing than try and find that threshhold, by that stage you've hit whatever it is you were trying to avoid.

 

I learned this from an advanced driving instructor and also had a friend wh

o tried it out. The distance was 15m extra from 70k's to halt SEVERAL times. It occurs because you can get a better threshold of the brake point without ABS. This is of course if you don't lock up the wheels. The POINT of ABS is to keep control of the car, not to make you brake quicker. You don't have to be that good to perform it actaully, you can do it with 2 fingers, that is all the pressure required to get them to this point in most cars and yes I have seen it done with 2 fingers.

 

I have seen it preformed with 2 fingers too (off road)

But in the same way I think that the ABS will give you an overall safer system, sure in a controlled ewnvironment you may be able to shave off a few feet, but when the oh shit factor kicks in I think you'll find that the abs may well save your life (or someone else's). and I also think that 15m from 70k is a load of rubbish...

I can see that your trying to prove a point but that is too big a difference to be realistic, furthermore the guy I saw using to fingers had ABS installed and never went near the threshold

 

not to mention this is from a BMW write up.

That is from 50mph, so take your side of it, he is an experienced driver so if he was 0.2s slower, 10 feet is > 3m, which in my eyes, is a fairly large distance. ABS isn't designed to make you stop quicker.

 

Warning about the Porsche Brake Upgrade.......................

....it is a good upgrade, but problem is the large number of modifications that are required, one in particular that really defeats the purpose of a big brake kit, and that is having to grind 11mm off the edges of the disc pads to make them fit around the hats. Not to forget mentioning the adapters don't fit and need redrilling, and the brake lines need repositioning and modifying etc., etc.,

All these mods require extra labour and extra cost if you are not doing it yourself.

These modifications should not have to be done considering the price of the kit.

In hindsight I would select another kit.:thumbsdown:

Having said all that, if you want to take your Zed to the circuit-track regularly, you do need to upgrade to a big brake kit of some sort, particularly the front, the front stock brakes just don't cut it.

 

You can definately stop quicker without abs!!!

ABS releases braking pressure when it detects a wheel has stopped spinning - thus you aren't getting any braking pressure to that wheel - yes its a split second but you still travel distance in that time!

ABS was designed so that you can steer while braking! Most people forget this - they think its just for stopping in a straight line.


Go and do any defensive driving course - not one will say that ABS is better than threshold braking if it is done properly!

 

I disagree with alot of you here to some extent!

I run stock calipers and rotors with Bendix Ultimate pads in my zed when running around Barbagallo Raceway - renowed as the hardest track in Australia on brakes!

Most cars get 3 laps and the pedal goes to the floor - I've done 5 laps flat out and yes the pedal started to get longer but I could still brake on my braking markers and never overshot any corner.

The biggest problem with drivers at the track is that they are on the brake for far too long - quick hard stabs is the way to go!

 

Hi Franz..........

.......I bow to your superior driving skills mate, but surely, wouldn't your lap times drop significantly with a bigger brake kit, at least on the front:unsure: