Something I didn't think about......

Discussion in 'Technical' started by sbe, Dec 3, 2010.

  1. mungyz

    mungyz Well-Known Member

    So Mr Twin Turbo

    I see you have no come back here as you are clearly wrong yet you wonder off in to the other thread you started and start having a crack at anyone who dares disagree with you :confused:

    You have still not shown us what qualifications you have in this field and you have made even more errors in your advice/comments.

    I will give you some advice:

    MAN UP! Admit you were wrong on some counts, apologise for acting a dick (even if you don't think you were) and move on.

    Think of this as a club room rather than a forum, how long do you think you would have lasted had all this been a conversation face to face? I would say your face would look a touch shabby by now & it would be your own fault.
     
  2. mafi-zed

    mafi-zed the resident hoon

    so since these rims came off a Z, and onto my falcon, i'm assuming they were 70mm which is the correct size for the ford.
    that would mean the wobble would be bad balancing.

    I'll take the wheels off and measure so i know for sure, i don't remember having any problems fitting them
     
  3. sbe

    sbe New Member

    Thanks for all the replies.

    I did do the research and I did know about the centre bore difference, and I purchased the locator rings ages ago.

    Just the nuts got me. 12mm x 1.25 vs 1/2in x 1.25 - it's only .5mm difference.... and same thread pattern (that's the 1.25 part). I guess I expected imperial ones (1/2in) not to have the same thread as metric ones.
    Oh, and they're 19mm nuts (socket drive). Go figure!! :confused:

    That's why I thought I'd share (rather than hide my shame:eek:)- If doing all the research I can still miss that -hopefully someone else won't make my mistake.

    Other info (for education of other Zedders).
    There are two types of nuts, the type that have a "flat" end, and a "conical" end. Flat ends ones have to be the right outer diameter to suit the wheel also, whereas the conical ones ten to self centre themselves (and hence the wheel also, even without the locator rings).

    Funny thing is - I was going to go on the GOR run too. Found this out just in time to NOT do that! Ordered the new nuts from Bursons (had to be a certain size to fit the rims and still be able to get a socket around them).

    Simon.
     
  4. a2zed

    a2zed Guest

    I can't see in that video where the studs sheared as was said.

    I have been in one car that did the same, he had just fitted the wheels, got about 500m up the road and all 4 wheels came off. He did not tighten the wheel nuts.

    As a 15 year old passenger, it was rather amusing watching my brothers brand new wheels skittling off into the paddocks, was a bitch trying to find the wheels nuts in the long grass beside the road but.

    My guess would be the guy in the video just fitted his track wheels and did the same.
     
  5. MrTwinTurbo

    MrTwinTurbo Account Disabled

    lugs to fit


    Hi Simon

    not sure what you mean by two types nuts -your wheel?
    all the following fit a 300zx depending on your mag -- disregard the circle - it fits -that was just me matching the correct nut/lug to my sparco ns2s - they take a bloody weird size but fit nicely

    tends to be a common problem also - lots of people think mag bolt/lugs/nuts all fit the same wheels and /or get the wrong ones - some are hard to tell the difference but it can be huge - example the raised section on the mag thread hole on the sparco ns2 is hard too see only the skinny lug hole gives a clue you need some fandangled lug
    Get the wrong lug and it would strip off (and lol the same thing happens in the video lol-except its normally when you cornering hard instead of straight (just sheared off).

    pics of nuts to suit 300zx
    http://yfrog.com/4jka1mdcj
    http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1046/ka1mdc.jpg

    Cheers
     
  6. MrTwinTurbo

    MrTwinTurbo Account Disabled

    start with changing wheels before driving

    how do you put on nuts and not tighten them - lol
     
  7. a2zed

    a2zed Guest

    I guess in the excitement of the event he forgot all about tighening them up.
     
  8. mungyz

    mungyz Well-Known Member

    WOW great info - except no mention there of the standard wheel nuts :rolleyes:

    12 by 1.25mm metric stud, 5 x 114.3mm PCD

    Pretty much all you need to know and all that is a dead certain for ANY wheel fitting a Z32.

    Everything else depends on the wheel and its offset etc, thousands of wheels out there and dozens of ways to make them fit correctly and safely.

    You can run hub centric rings, adaptors to sort the offset, adaptors to change the stud pattern, about fifty different styles of wheel nuts (so long as the thread & length are right and they fit the wheel), many many different sizes brands and types of tyres.

    Bottom line is if you are not 100% certain of what yo are up to ask someone who knows what they are doing & is qualified to give the advice required, if you are doing this via the internet be very very careful and try to double check with a professional in person. It is all to easy for people to jump behind a keyboard and suddenly become an "expert".
     
  9. MrTwinTurbo

    MrTwinTurbo Account Disabled

    original design standard

    I'm pretty sure the red acorn nuts in pic will suit the standard rim and substitute for standard nuts anyway

    yeh agree theres so many components to get around - even milling yr mag bore hole and facing off inside, but they can change the ballpark again such as offset would change(minimally) - you can even shave some of the hicas off to get them in as well - the problem with these is that they tend to reduce the strength of the original engineering standard that was intended
    eg spacers place greater stress on the hub and weaken the original strength
    design / concentrics are not snug as the originals / offsets can place greater strain on the axle than the orignal axle design (standard offset) but done right it can be minimal difference.

    Preference should always remain with original design standard (made to fit/suit)

    Couldnt agree more with your last paragraph! thats worth emphasis and I suggest even triple checking everything

    Wheel / Tyre size is same on na Zs -unlike turbo
     
  10. p5yk3r

    p5yk3r el8 haqur

    If someone digs this post up from a search, please inspection your suspension first. Please inspection your suspension first, suspension first. Suspension.
     
  11. Benny_C

    Benny_C About as subtle as...

    Could you please elaborate on what you mean by this, with more detail?
    I've just never heard of this happening before. :confused:

    Nope, all RHD N/A's and TT's came out with the same 16x7.5" +45 wheel dimentions, with the exeption of course of the 25th anniversary model which came out with the 17" versions.
     
  12. Brock32

    Brock32 Active Member

    Shaving your HICAS is the new Brazilion!!!!!:rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  13. mungyz

    mungyz Well-Known Member

    Mr Twin Turbo
    Please be aware that the specs between countries varied with the Z32 greatly.

    One of the things that differed was the TT in the US (two seater only available in TT) ran a wider set of rear wheels and tyres. The Japanese spec did not.

    All J spec models ran the same wheels and tyres front and rear (different spokes left to right but same size - directional wheel) until the later models that started running BBS wheels from the factory etc.

    What is stated on the US forums is not true and correct across the globe.
     

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