My Build Thread

Discussion in 'Technical' started by Adamness, Aug 26, 2009.

  1. Adamness

    Adamness Active Member

    Power Figure: I'm hoping to crack the 300rwkw mark while keeping my car as a reliable daily driver.

    Would like suggestions/constructive criticism :D

    I bought a 2nd motor and plan on rebuilding it and then swapping.


    Engine came with:

    The engine: http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/showthread.php?t=291817&highlight=engine+turbos+sale

    I plan on using a stock plenum, not the custom one.

    2 x T28 hybrid turbos, water and oil cooled, steel wheel, T28 front with a .83 rear housing
    Custom Dump Pipes
    Exedy Heavy Duty Button Clutch
    Alluminium flywheel
    FMIC

    Already on my car:

    3A racing Pod
    cat back exhaust
    Manual Boost controller
    Chip + tune from Karl


    Mods i'm looking at purchasing:

    Wiseco Forged Pistons
    Eagle Forged Conrods
    Nismo 555cc injectors
    Adjustable FPR
    ARP Head & Main Stud Kit
    All new hoses/seals throughout engine

    I'm trying to decide whether doing head work is necessary/worth it for me. I have searched around and read but not found what i'm looking for.

    I was going to get larger throttle bodies but not sure if it is worth it if not going to port heads etc?

    Still considering my options for ECU.

    Also considering 100k service.

    I'm just looking at engine mods at the moment, I will be doing sway bars etc after I have sorted my engine. (I want to get the parts while the aussie dollar is doing so well)

    How do these T28s compare to GT28R's? What are the differences?

    And yes I know there are lots of build threads and I HAVE searched and read.

    But I'm allowed to have my own too!

    Cheers,

    Adam
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2009
  2. WazTTed

    WazTTed Grease Monkey


    t28s are generally the gt28r aka the s14/15 turbo the 2560r.

    few things.
    you will need a 100k service and all new timing gear etc. considering your engine is coming apart.
    things you will / should buy

    hks/forge Actuators,
    msp/ams manifolds
    5 bolt dumps
    full gasket kit
    ss oil line with restrictors
    cams !!
    head gaskets
    etc etc list goes on forever dude.

    then your looking at things like cryo treating
    new welsh plugs
    grind the flashing inside the coolant galleries
    hot tanking
    fuel pump
    fuel lines
    replace all vac line
    new engine mounts
    new steering rack mounts

    ps .. for 300kws.. aka 400horse at the wheels.
    you could do a stock rebuild with larger turbos and injectors and tune !! easy ...
     
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  3. directzx

    directzx New Member

    well then go for more... lol


    good luck with the build... i love these threads!:D
     
  4. Chad_

    Chad_ Well-Known Member

    are you chasing top end or low to mid end? they may be a bit laggy, maybe try sourching the smallest housing you can fit if ur chasing low-mid end....

    not nessasary to get 300 but if u have the cash to throw then do it. flow is the best thing for your engine, the better the flow the better ur result. porting ur heads and match porting from heads/lower plenum/plenum would be good. if u dont have the cash for the throttle bodies then just clean ur stock one up to match with the plenum entry...

    nisstune

    these t28's are just the older versions. the gt series are the new versions...


    100%%
     
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  5. Adamness

    Adamness Active Member

    The 300rwkw goal is what I have in my head due to after researching, it seems a good goal for the amount of money I want to spend.

    I already have 5 bolt custom dumps

    I forgot to mention i'm also going to get cometic head gaskets and all new gaskets.

    I already plan on replacing nearly ALL hoses

     
  6. Adamness

    Adamness Active Member

    Tyring to get best bang for buck I can, I already have these turbos so won't be sourcing others. I'll do the best I can with these, not too concerned with lag but keen to reduce it if i can with supporting mods.

    I just curious at peoples suggestions for perhaps spending a bit of extra money here or there which may see good results.

    I am considering nistune.

    Thanks, this is all great feedback!

    The reason for forged internals is i dont want any hiccups down the road, i heard of someone snapping a stock conrod at 297rwkw, yeah they can handle more but i'm not sure on condition/how things have been treated so i'm playing it safe and replacing with stronger new forged ones.

    I want reliable power. I dont want the engine to be under risk or strain

     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2009
  7. Chad_

    Chad_ Well-Known Member

    sorry i didnt mean get other turbos. i meant try and source smaller exhaust housing for them....
     
  8. MagicMike

    MagicMike Moderator Staff Member


    No real need for the cometic gaskets - stock will be more than fine... I understand the slotcar ran stock gaskets for ages - if not still using them...
     
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  9. Adamness

    Adamness Active Member

    Cometic head gaskets only gonna set me back about $160 or so, well worth it for that price I think yeah?
     
  10. MagicMike

    MagicMike Moderator Staff Member

    Not if you get stockos in a kit if you are buying one anyway?
     
  11. Adamness

    Adamness Active Member

    Good call, I don't think one comes in caz's 100k kit though? Only kit i'm looking at getting atm

    Any more suggestions, tips etc from anyone is all great. Keep em coming!
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2009
  12. kade_744

    kade_744 has largest member

    doubt .83 will be too laggy :confused:

    i have .84 and it makes boost quick enough :cool:
     
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  13. Adamness

    Adamness Active Member

    What boost are you running and when does it hit full spool?
     
  14. kade_744

    kade_744 has largest member

    Havent paid too much attention yet... will have a better look tonight and let you know. Still havent got the avc-r set up perfectly but not running anything over 1 bar.
     
  15. a2zed

    a2zed Guest

    Source all the parts through coz, you will save alot of money.

    I would do this if I were you

    Wiseco pistons
    Eagle rods (optional)
    Full 100k kit
    OEM full gasket kit
    AMS or MS manis
    AMS 5 bolt dumps
    Reco heads, no porting
    Port match upper and lower plenums
    Port match lower plenum to heads
    Nismo 555
    Sard fuel reg
    New oem fuel pump
    All new silicon coolant and vac hoses
    Nistune ecu
    200cpi metal cats, either 2 1/2 or 3 inch
    Koyo radiator
    New fan hub
    S2 ptu

    Thats about all you need to make good reliable power, not including any other existing components that may be stuffed.
     
  16. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    are you sure you dont mean you have .63 housings???
     
  17. Adamness

    Adamness Active Member

    On the receipt i was given from when the turbos were purchased it says:

    T25/28 Turbocharger .83a/r Rear

    So fairly certain its .83, they look quite large in person.
     
  18. Adamness

    Adamness Active Member

    Thanks, i'm most likely going to get most of the parts from vuk@AMS, he's giving me some great prices and aussie dollar is doing great at the moment, i'll get a quote from coz too though, thanks!

    I already have a s2 ptu from heavytrevy and a 56mm ebay bok choi rad that i forgot to mention.

    The engine already came with custom made 5 bolt dumps, would you suggest using ams ones over these? i guess its hard for you to make a judgment without seeing the custom ones. I may take some measurements at some stage and compare.

    Thanks,

    Adam

     
  19. Benny_C

    Benny_C About as subtle as...

    *eek* i smell lag city with .83's!
     
  20. Adamness

    Adamness Active Member

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