I got extremely shafted.... got quoted $1500 max $2000 with gaskets etc. 3-4 days. come out a month later with a $4261 bill then aparently cams and head was stuffed. running fine when took in however. so plus 600+ not including parts picked the car up, car was smoking like all buggery. He said was oil in exhaust due to leaking turbo's. no worries 3 days later after not driving it hard at all. She starts to make a pining noise sure enough sounds like a piston. what do you think dodgy???
I heard a totally different story I saw your car there before and was talking about it with the mechanics. They told me how when your car rocked up it was noisy as hell. While they had the engine out they told you you should replace the bearings and check the pistons as it costs next to nothing since its out anyway and you absolutely refused to spend the extra money to do it. Your car had obviously been suffering from oil starvation prior to this but you wanted to spend the money on a carbon fibre bonnet. I mean your exhaust had litres of oil in it! They fixed the problem you wanted fixed, gave you the car back, then you immediately turned the boost right up, went around the block and lo and behold the cam siezed. Seriously I think you only have yourself to blame. You were too cheap to do the job properly in the first place, then come here and bitch about their work. What, you expected them to completely rebuild the whole engine when you refused to spend an extra cent?
That is b@#@sh!T They didn't tell me NOOOO such thing his is f@#kin lying...and i didnt touch the boost they set it!!! i dont know that much about cars and im the first to admit it... and i wouln't fuyck around with the boost. he didn't metion to me anything about pistons and bearings at any stage of the game. and if had of i would have said no worries do what you think. i said replace what needs to be replace while the engine is out cause i dont want to have the engine out again....my exact words... sure enough 1400 in parts he cost me so naturally i thought everything would be fine. and about the cf bonnet i wouldn't have brought the thing if i knew he was going to ping me 5k instead of 2k and the car still not work!!! i would have been better off buying another motor.
so you dont have a 2 stage manual boost control in your car? your car is running stock boost is it? Also I find the rest very hard to believe seeing as they commented how crap the engine was sounding long before you siezed the cams. I dont think they would of simply put your engine back together again without rebuilding it if you had said "replace what needs to be replace while the engine is out cause i dont want to have the engine out again". I dont know of any mechanic who wouldnt even replace just the bearings on a 15 year old engine when they have the chance unless they were told not to. I mean why wouldnt they? Im sure they are really excited about pulling your engine out all over again when they already are chock full of cars waiting for work. Sorry, but Dave would have to be one of the most honest blokes I know and obviously I believe him over you. Have you tried talking to Dave about your issues?
Nathan, when the car rocked up it was noisy because the turbo's were fucked. not the pistons or the cams. if the cams were siezing how did i get it there because i didn't tow it. I was told by grant at performance turbo's and from another mechanic that builds drag cars that the noise is the turbo's. A) he didn't say anything about the bearings or pistons at any stage to check, replace or anything B)i wouldn't refuse to spend money on the car if he advised it. C) when they said they fixed the problem and "I" went around the block and turned the boost up and the cam siezed - only problem with that is i was not anywhere near the car i was probable working. So thanks for clearing that up, so they turned the boost up and then the cam siezed and fucked it. This is when the told me the cam is siezing and i said no worries so i got a left head and the 2 cams which then they fitted. Then i got the car back. the car wasn't smoking bad when i gave it to them and when i picked it up there was so much more smoke than before they said it was the oil. A fair comment but not that much smoke seeing most of the oil was in the cats and they where removed.
yes i do have a dual stage boost controller which they set and boost is a max of 10psi not 15 or anything and yeah you will believe him over me cause you are there all the time and are like a mate im guessing. No, i haven't talked to dave yet but i will be. yeah at $1500 i dont know why they would want to pull my engine out again. doesn't matter i wouln't let them touch anything cause i simply dont trust em.
like I said before... you have your story and Ive heard a different one. Have you talked to Dave about your complaints or just intend to whine here where he cant defend himself?
what was on your initial report? i dont wanna get into it too much on here coz i dont beleive its doing either yourself or Dave (precise) any good. usually, before dave starts working on a car he writes a report on what problems they can see - what is on the report? in my opinion - you shouldnt be slandering a company until you have at least tried to sort out the issue.... if i was dave, i wouldnt be going out of my way to help you now that you have bagged him out on the forum.... ::Risk::
yes agreed i should have talked to Dave first but i kinda pisses you of when you spend $5500 and ya still cant drive your car. when i went down there with the noise he said basically that will be about $2500 and thats about it and didn't say anything to help. but i will call him tomorrow during my break at work and see what he says.
My costs also blew out by ~$800 at precise Zed was complied there and was bit disappointed with the customer service, but the quality of the work was good as far as i can tell. Only thing was that something was missed for compliance that needed to be done. Will be trying somewhere else for tune or next service tho, see what the competition are like
Precise Hey guys, I posted on a different topic a while ago about my experience with Precise. Some of you PM'd me for the details and personally im not surprised someone else has had a bad experience there. Anyway WILD i hope you get it sorted out soon. Cheers
hrmm well my zeds been going to precise for AGES and will continue to do so dont know why you guys are having issues, Dave has always tried to do the right thing by me.... ::Risk::
I apologise to Dave for not talking to him first and posting this post with no evidence of foul play. I will be getiing the motor stipped to see what went wrong if it was wear and tear or not i will keep the forum posted Dan
Good stuff Im glad your sorting it out and going about it the right way. Dave is a very honest guy, if there is any question of error on their part Im sure he will take care of it no questions asked.
Not true He wouldn't re-tune my S-AFC after one of his mechanics stuffed up the initial setup of it. Fault acknoweledged, not rectified. Only other problem I had with him was his refusal to tell me, at any point of the work being done, when I would get it back and how much it cost despite me asking numerous times. Not on! Work was otherwise good, but won't go back and won't recommend them. I will be going back to X-speed now as they were in contact with me at every stage and charged quite reasonably too. They were quite happy to show me problems 1st hand rather than just tell me which I liked. Only reason I went elsewhere is because Myaree is a LONG way to go for a service for me. Worth the trip now! Cheers Rob
Damn...i was gonna use precise for my next service after xmas now I'm in two minds. i certainly don't have money pouring out of my ass and expect to pay what I'm quoted....
see, this is why posts like this should be saved for AFTER you have > attempted to sort the problem out with the other party.... regardless that im mates with Dave, it goes for any post like this in general... it will damage a companies reputation and business - that in my opinion is not on! you are affecting how someone is making there income, you wouldnt like someone walking upto you boss and slagging you off would you?... if they were complete con artists, or refused to fix the problem or completely fucked the job up... go for it, but im yet to see how precise in this instance deserves this.... not knowing the full story, its hard for me to comment too much - but in regards to quotes - it would be pretty difficult to quote accuratly to fix a problem, if the problem isnt 100% known... im sure once they have started pulling it apart, thats when they would know better.... did you recieve a written quote? i bet not.... i bet dave would of said something along the lines of - we think its "this" problem, which would cost around "this" much.... as for lazyzeds afc... in my experiance with precise - they have NEVER said they will tune an afc... its is always outsourced.... kinda hard to fix a problem they cant fix.... i have only ever received one written quote from precise - and that was for my exhuast system... which, ended up being quite alot more expensive than what dave quoted.... did he charge me the extra? no... all other times, he has given me a verbal estimate.... if you havent got a quote in writing you cant really bitch and moan... if you want a contractor - ANY contractor to do specific work for a set price, it makes common sense to get it in writing... its all good to scream murder now, but you should always make sure you know whats going on...in a perfect world where flowers, sunshine and bunny rabbits lighten our lives... mechanics would be able to use there psychic abilities to work out exactly whats wrong with your car and price accordingly... but its not a perfect world and you should know whats going on... if my car is at ANY workshop for more than 3 days im at the workshop checking on whats happening etc... your car is a big investment... why wouldnt you? ::Risk::
