5 speed conversion Help Required

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by perzn1986, Apr 4, 2017.

  1. perzn1986

    perzn1986 Member

    Hi everyone,

    I'm 99% sure my auto gearbox is on its last legs. After 2nd gear, revs go up but car doesn't want to move until it reaches higher revs. To be safe, I've replaced the ATCU yet same thing. I've bought a manual conversion not long ago including the oils required, rear main seal etc..
    I was wondering if someone on here would be generous enough to lend me their garage space and a hand to do the conversion? I'm too broke to take it to a garage to get the work done but I am happy to pay someone in beers and food. I understand it's impossible to get it done in 1 day but would be great to properly be able to drive it again with all gears working, sooner than later.

    Please let me know if you're able to help out. Would much appreciate it
     
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  2. pmac

    pmac Z,, IT'S COMPLICATED!!!!!

    Tech Day

    Have you looked at using this workshop?
    https://www.diygaragewa.com.au/
    From what I understand their rates are not too bad and it would be much easier and quicker to do it on a hoist.
    I'm sure a few of us could get together and give you a hand.
    Main thing is to have every possible part you need on hand to do the job. Do you have a comprehensive list of what you need?
    Make a post in the Coming Events section for a "Tech Day" when your ready and I'm sure you'll get a few experienced guys willing to help.
    I'll be the first to put my hand up.
     
  3. perzn1986

    perzn1986 Member

    DIY Garage seems to be the one that's recommended by few of my mates so considering this place. 8am to 8pm and overnight stay is free but back on the clock after 8am. assuming it'll be a 2 day job so can book a bay for 2 full days (8+ hrs prices drop to $18 from standard $22. $18 x 24hrs = $432) but that's if people are keen to help me for 2 whole days and not leave me stranded half way through haha.

    I bought the conversion off another member and he provided me with gearbox, one piece tail shaft, pedals, shifter+ boot, clutch etc..

    I bought rear main seal, required amount of oils. also bought a braided clutch line. Would like to get new shifter bushings but gotta keep looking around.

    parts I lack is tools, have basic socket set and screw drivers. need spanners and other tools to make the conversion go smoother.
    as for dates, I'm thinking - 29th and 30th April - Sat and Sun. should have enough funds by then for 2 days garage hire.

    Really appreciate the offer, need all the help I can get.
     
  4. DazzaZ32

    DazzaZ32 Active Member

    Doing the pedals alone is a dash out job if you want to do it easily, then you have to fit the clutch master cylinder which is at least plenum off or engine out job. And do you have the right tailshaft to suit ?
     
  5. pmac

    pmac Z,, IT'S COMPLICATED!!!!!

    Parts list

    5 spd Transmission and driveline:

    Transmission w/ the 5 Spd Speedometer Pinion (sensor)
    Clutch fork assembly w/ pivot ball
    Transmission Bolts
    Transmission engine mount plate
    Plates between motor and transmission
    New Clutch Fork Dust Boot
    5 Spd Driveshaft


    Clutch & Flywheel:

    Flywheel bolts & dowels
    Clutch plate
    Clutch Pressure Plate & bolts w/ washers (9 Bolts)
    Clutch Release Bearing
    Pilot Bushing
    Clutch Alignment Tool


    Pedals and hydraulics:

    Clutch Pedal Assy
    5 spd Brake Pedal
    Clutch Master Cylinder

    1 piece flexible Clutch line
    Clutch Slave Cylinder


    Shifter components:

    Shifter Linkage
    New upper & lower dust boots
    New Gearstick Bushings
    Good condition Shifter Holder Bracket (Rubber mount comman failure)
    Leather shift boot
    Shift boot retainer
    Shift knob
    Sensors

    -Backup Sensor
    -Speed Sensor
    -Neutral Switch
    -Starter/Clutch Switch
    -Cruise Control Disengage Switch for Clutch Pedal
    *Questionable on ALTERNATOR/TRANSMISSION Wiring Harness*

    Miscellaneous & Optional Parts / Service:

    3 quarts of Redline MT-90, Royal Purple, or other quality gear oil
    1 quart DOT 3 Brake fluid for clutch system
    Rear Main Seal, Oil Pan Seal, and the Retainer Gasket (PCV parts if needed)
    Transmission Mount
    New Center Carrier bearing for Driveshaft (if using used stock shaft)
    Flywheel resurfacing if installing a used flywheel (note the .008? Step for stock TT clutch setups)


    Special Tools:

    Air impact wrench and impact sockets (makes certain steps much simpler)
    Transmission Jack
    Torx security bits (for Series 2 ....airbag control unit)
    3' long x 1/2" extension
    14 mm short socket in 1/2"
    1/2" socket swivel
    Chisel or slide hammer for Auto pilot bushing

    Brand new Bits -

    Manual Speed Sensor Gear
    Front and Rear 5sp Trans Seal if required for maintenance
    Starter Shim Plate ( The TT Engine to a NA 5sp Gearbox Task requires the shim or grinding ---- The starter cant engage on the TT flywheel when using a NA 5sp Gearbox to a TT engine)
    Clutch Release dust fork boot

    Some good info here.
    http://www.z1motorsports.com/upload/Z1 Auto to 5sp conversion Tech.pdf

    http://www.twinturbo.net/nissan/300zx/forums/main/view/1109375/Manual-Conversion-Wiring-Guide.html

    Should not have to remove the Dash.
     
  6. perzn1986

    perzn1986 Member

  7. noel0leon

    noel0leon Member

    If you were in Vic I'd be more than happy to give you a hand.

    I highly recommend going to that diy garage. I've lost count of the amount of times I wished I had a hoist.

    It's probably a given but make sure you've got a torque wrench as well to get everything torqued right.

    If you've got time, change the shifter bushings as well cause they're a pain to get to when the gearbox is in the car.

    Definitely do NOT need to pull the dash to do the pedals - it's tricky but possible. Do check the heater core though.
    Fitting the clutch master DOES NOT require the plenum or engine off. I've done it and you just need one person on the motor side and one person underneath. Again tricky but totally possible.
     
  8. noel0leon

    noel0leon Member

    Also, do yourself a big favour and get a braided clutch line, the hard lines and second clutch bleed point are superfluous.
     
  9. perzn1986

    perzn1986 Member

    Thanks mate. Got braided clutch line already, just need to source the shifter bushings
     

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