For the spray painters and body repairers out there

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by Jaz, Aug 13, 2016.

  1. Jaz

    Jaz Tattooed Member

    Thanks mate!!
     
  2. Jaz

    Jaz Tattooed Member

    Update and sadness

    Welcome to Sunday all! Hope you are having a great weekend.

    I have mixed feelings about this weekend and here's why:

    So I applied another couple of coats of paint to the bar and I was really happy with the results. Technique is improving slightly:

    Hard to see the gloss in this photo, but it's there.

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    ...and up close where the damage was.

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    There is only a slight orange peel effect, but all good after using a cutting compound right...well, I f#&ked it!

    I used this:

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    with the Septone 'Mr. Buff' cutting compound.

    Then this happened:

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    OUCH!!! :mad: Totally melted the area! All I can to is :rofl: otherwise I'm going to :vomit:

    Back to the drawing board for that section I think!

    Then I turned to the lambs wool buff with the compound. Better result, but I must be too heavy handed or something as it brought up a gloss but I can see primer:

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    So in short...happy with the painting yesterday...not happy with the buffing attempt today. Back to hand sanding and painting damaged sections.

    All learning exercises! I didn't throw anything in rage so I guess that's a positive! :rolleyes2:

    More posts (and probably f*&k ups) to come.

    Cheers

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  3. Stufarny

    Stufarny Stuart

    Don't do the cutting compound with a machine! big no no! you only need to give it a go over with an open weave cloth and the cutting compound, only to take a small amount off at a time. As youve already found out, the machine is too harsh. You will find the paint is still softish after a day or so unless the temperature is quite warm. If your finish is reasonable after youve painted it, you might just want to give it a polish, not a cut.
    Thing is now that youve put polish on it, you are going to have to remove all that polish off before you can paint it again, otherwise the paint will "bead" and look worse than before. I would recommend another light sand, with 1000 grit wet and dry, and wipe off with wax & grease remover, you could use strong soaps or sugar soap, to get rid of the wax from the cutting youve already done. If you sand it down to a matt finish then this should have taken enough off to remove the wax layer, so no need for wax and grease remover then. If you dont want to paint the whole bar again, then just work around the damaged area, and outside of this area. Remember if you do this the wax needs to be taken off past where you are going to touch it up with paint. A tip when sanding - get a normal bar of bathroom soap, wet and rub the soap over the wet & dry paper, and sand using plenty of water and soap! this makes the sand paper glide easier over the paint, and helps remove wax at the same time. Also stops the sand paper from clogging up with paint. When you paint it again, dont worry about over spray on your existing paint, as you can polish this off later.
    Another tip with spray painting, you can fill you spray gun with water and practice first using water instead of paint, so you can play with adjusting the jets and fan on your gun. Practice on the side of the shed or somewhere where you can see it getting wet and the effect you are getting from the gun.
    Have fun with it, and like they say practice makes perfect!
    Stu
     
  4. stumagoo

    stumagoo Active Member

    Also acrylic takes a lot longer to harden enough to cut back. Should have mentioned something before but we don't use it and if completely slipped my mind.
     
  5. Jaz

    Jaz Tattooed Member

    Thanks Stu. I really appreciate the feedback and knowledge. I will continue work on it and let you know how it goes.
     
  6. Veem

    Veem New Member

    Hey Jaz, I see you're in SA. Where did you end up finding the 3M 05887? I'm trying to find some to repair my bumper.
     
  7. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

    Hi Jaz,
    The work you have done so far, shows that you CAN complete this repair with excellent results.
    The biggest problem is, becoming anxious when you think you are almost finished.
    Just take it slowly(like that Old Chinese adage)"Slowly, Slowly, catchee Monkey". :zlove::br:
     
  8. Jaz

    Jaz Tattooed Member

    Apologies Veem, I have been AWOL for a while. I got the 3M goop straight off the Smash Supplies website (www.smashsupplies.com.au). The product is here.
    Smash Supplies is probably not the only place that sells it. In hind site I should have checked whether Crash Supplies in Stepney has or could get some. That's where I got my paint from.

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  9. Jaz

    Jaz Tattooed Member

    Thanks Chili and you are right...I seem to be rushing to finish this and keep making more work for myself. Most frustrating.
     
  10. Veem

    Veem New Member

    Hey, thanks for that. I don't know how to give thanks to a post, but know I appreciate the info.
    Thanks again.
     
  11. gmbrezzo

    gmbrezzo Moderator

    This has been a great thread to follow Jaz.
    For a first time effort, Well done. Its all a learning curve but well worth it.
    That repair area is practically invisible.
     
  12. stumagoo

    stumagoo Active Member

    1 thing every repairer sees is the most minor issues with their repairs, do remember you know exactly where it is and what to look for when looking for signs of the repair, I have had heaps of people look at my car and they dont see ay of the flaws I see in it, and you will find in the end that a lot of people will never notice your repair.
    enjoy the car buddy.
     

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