Unmolested 2000 TT

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by Raheen, Jul 10, 2016.

  1. Raheen

    Raheen Active Member

    These posts don't appear too popular, but I cant resist as you don't see zeds like this one up for sale too often.

    Link

    Allow me to summarize:

    2000
    TT
    Auto (the only fault it has in my book, can be corrected easily enough)
    54,000 km (looks to be genuine km)
    2+2
     
  2. QLDZDR

    QLDZDR ID=David

    I follow your car ad posts.
    That model is perfect to me.
    SAW kit ready to go in.
    Add some wheels keep the rest stock.

     
  3. DazzaZ32

    DazzaZ32 Active Member

    How much to get a zed over from Japan ?
    Is it worth it?
     
  4. Shane001

    Shane001 Well-Known Member

    So the model posted is around $AU27K?

    Did a search, the cheapest manual listed is around $AU5K. Seems they're holding their value much better in Japan than here in Aust?
     
  5. Jinxed

    Jinxed Moderator

    its because its a the latest model available. a 1989 model would be similarly cheap to your 5k price or cheaper in japan
     
  6. Shane001

    Shane001 Well-Known Member

    Yes I realise the 2000 model at $27K is the last model year released.

    My point was $5K in Aus is probably an average price, not cheapest available. I realise this site is not listing all available 300ZX in Japan, just interesting that the cheapest option is $5K. Was just making an observation.
     
  7. Raheen

    Raheen Active Member

    Even more rare?

    Link

    Tommy Kaira
    1992
    52,000 km
     
  8. ugame

    ugame user #1

    Sadly if you're "correcting" the transmission, then it now becomes "molested".

    Also...it's not in Australia. So fine for anyone currently living in Japan, but no good to the rest of us :(
     
  9. Raheen

    Raheen Active Member

    sorry

    Didn't advocate any thing other than the availability/price of zeds in their home market, just a glimpse of what may come of them in the future. All good condition later models I see go for 25-40K AUD in Japan now. Even low Kms series one are 15K.

    If the liberals change the law expected to come into effect in 2018 (assuming they can get it through the parliament) the 2000 will be legal to import in 2025 when the now axed 15 year rule is reintroduced as a 25 year rule. If there are any older cashed up members here buying a 2000 while still available and storing it in Japan could be an option, for those who want a museum piece. I would do this if I had the money...

    All later model pristine zeds will get a lot my expensive and probably harder find by 2025 I suppose. There is always a personal import if you want to live in Japan or know someone who will act in this capacity for you.
     
  10. SIM300

    SIM300 FAKE MODERAT0R

    Keep posting these threads, I love them.
    That engine bay is very clean. Noticed some wear on the weather molds. Late model Z32's odometer cogs are shielded and not able to be wound back like early model clusters.
     
  11. CARZ

    CARZ Member

    You can still find mint '97 models in Japan which can be imported, complied & registered right now!
    A mint 19yr old Z right now is better than waiting another 9yrs with fingers crossed so you can go searching for a 25yr old Z!
    Not to mention that IF you could still find a mint 2000 model for sale in Japan in 2025, you'd be paying through the nose for it - so most likely, you'd just never end up owning one anyway - which makes it all fairly pointless!
     
  12. Raheen

    Raheen Active Member

    I hear you

    But not everyone wants it now now now, if one cares about preservation of historically important cars and have the funds then maybe it's worth the wait. I have looked at 96/97 examples the 2000 spec tt is still the holy grail to me, they are rare and even rarer in mint condition. I have a series 3 v35 skyline with all the options my mate has a series 1. The difference is enormous (build date 2003 vs 2006) that's how I feel about the series 4 vs earlier ones.

     
  13. ugame

    ugame user #1

    no need to apologise.

    Still nice to see them. I was maybe just stating the obvious.
     
  14. Raheen

    Raheen Active Member

    Ok then...

    There are 90 odd Z32s on Goo-Net, 32 are Turbos, sorted by lowest Km's regardless of year:

    1. This car is a 1990, Claims to have 26,000 Km on the clock. 1,050,000 JPY Link
    2. Another 1994, 30,000 Kms 1,580,000 JPY Link
    3. 1991, Says 47,000 Km. 3,140,000 JPY, quite modified Link
    4. This looks a goodin very clean, 1995, 51000, Still Rego'ed in Japan, 1,190,000 JPY. Link
    5. This one really jumps out and grabs me, 2007, 52,000 Km, JPY 1,299,000 Link

    Cheapest one on there.... 1992, 149,000 Kms, 258,000 JPY Link When I bought mine 10 years ago, you could pick up many a barn find under a grand, all these shitters seems to have gone. Still some rough ones over there but not impossible to find a very decent condition one.

    Just Looking at last 3 months of auctions (IAUC), pick of the litter is a Oct 2007, Turbo, 2+2 grade 4 BB Auto, VIN GCZ32-563289, Registered in Kobe, Rego Number is 303 SE 8172, has some warranty (not sure how) one owner, silver code KL0 Sold for JPY 520,000. There was also a 1995 Silver Grade 4BC, 54860 Km, Silver code KL0, Auto from Kyoto VIN GZ32-051526 2+2 Non Turbo by the looks, sold for JPY 300,000.

    For Me Number 4 and 5 are the winners (prefer 5) but given No5 is 1.3 Million JPY id take a punt on the 1997 at Auction very similar specs but priced at 520,000. My take is shitters at the auctions dont go back into circulation into the Japanese used car market, whats left are the average to mint. The dealers who sell them are charging 1-1.5 Mil but if and when at auction prices there is 500K or there abouts.

    Series 4 (1999/2000)

    A. Immaculate (its beautiful) year 2000, 44,000 km, JPY 1,180,000 NA Auto, bit of looseness in roof liner Link
    B. 1999, 47,000 km, NA Auto 2+2 JPY 1,198,000 Link
     
  15. CARZ

    CARZ Member

    Not wanting to knock them, they're certainly great looking condition Z's. But to me, if a car is 16+ years old and shows extremely low mileage, it probably shouldn't have any modifications (eg: aftermarket exhaust, changed alloys/steering wheel. Even an aftermarket stereo makes the very low mileage sus). Also, if its steering wheel is worn to the point that the leather is very smooth and has become glossy + the exterior mold strips are perished - it doesn't add up... Surely a 16+yr old car hasn't been just left on the street, out in the sun (causing the perished moldings) and if the car has been loved so much that it's only driven 2000kms per year (if that) over 16 (or even 25yrs!), then you probably wouldn't go replacing the exhaust and so on.
    I bought a Prado brand new that's now done over 200,000kms of mostly city driving (that's lots of turning the steering wheel!) and it's leather steering wheel is less 'worn-shiny' than some 50,000km Z's ;)
     
  16. Raheen

    Raheen Active Member

    have you been to Japan?

    You don't see many covered parked car, if they owner lives in the city in an apartment block it might have a basement to park, however the overwhelming majority are not covered when parked. In the country side they have make shift car tents they park under sometimes. Also the get more extreme weather. Colder snowy winters, crazy humid summers, regular Typhoons, Earthquakes etc.

    By and large they view cars differently to us, the mentality is they are disposable, not mean to last 10-20 years. The system is setup to get constant churn of the national fleet, to stimulate the car industry.

    Any other average car the same age as the zed is long gone from circulation, the fact they are still available says they are special/unique (but we know that)
     
  17. CARZ

    CARZ Member

    Totally agree, and no, aside from brilliant snow skiing - can't think of any reason I'd ever want to visit Japan.
    My point is that if a dealer gets a car that has been looked after reasonably well, flicking 155,000 back to 55,000 & giving the car a full-on detail is probably very common. If the car had been owned by someone who genuinely almost never drove it over a 16 to 25yr period, chances are - it wouldn't have an aftermarket exhaust / alloys / steering wheel fitted. That owner probably wouldn't even bother changing the OEM stereo. But hey, there's so many Z's showing only 100,000kms after quarter of a century, I'm probably wrong!


     
  18. Raheen

    Raheen Active Member

    Not entirely correct

    I can with a very high deal of confidence say that probability of a car being wound back in Australia is vastly higher than in Japan.

    How do I know this? The Land Transport Bureau/Department in Japan records at every shaken interval or change of ownership the data and the kilometers at that date, the first interval for shaken (think roadworthy) is 3 years, then 5, then yearly.

    The guy I get my cars from if i sweet talk him can get the documents for pretty much any car if I supply him the VIN, There was a guy at work who bought a supra from one of the dodgy dealers in Sydney that were shut down recently, he want to launch a case for compo so I obtained from him an original document from Japan showing the dates and kilometers from Japan. Turns out his Km's were legit. The time line and accrual of kilometer stacked up. the copy of the document he got when he bought the car and the original I got from the Japanese government was accurate... ie no photo shopping from the car yard in Australia.

     
  19. CARZ

    CARZ Member

    Oh, FFS Raheen... I started importing 300zx's, superas, terranos, surfs and soarers + a couple of MR2's all the way back in 1998 (imported, complied and sold - back when $25k to $28k for a TT manual 2+2 was a bargain). I did 11 Z32's in 10 months in 1999. Whether the car's speedos were flicked before auction in Japan, while waiting to go into the shipping container in Osaka or flicked before being complied once here - mate - they were pretty well ALL flicked! The Z's with nicely sitting numbers (all level still) those cars just had the left most digit flicked (1 back to 0), the ones with the numbers not level - were cars with say 109251 - you couldn't make it 009251 could you? No, so as soon as you flick digits more to the right - making it say 089251 you cockup the matching of Nissan's tiny, different sized interlocking tags - and the dials won't turn over perfectly in sync anymore... The fellow I always bought cars through in Japan actually gave the Australian government advice on setting up the Low Volume Import Scheme - he's been exporting cars out of Japan for 30 years now and gave me a headsup last year (I posted on this forum) of the changes the government announced only a few months back. Sorry mate, but do you even own a 300zx? I've got 5 at the moment, I've lost count now of the total that have passed through my hands but given that I did 11 just in 1999, have owned 15 since joining this forum (well, 5 of which I've parted out :rolleyes:) it shits me just a little reading some of your f'ing squawking.... FFS, get your little buddy your reckon you have in Japan to actually buy you a 2000 model and pay rego, insurance, maintenance & parking costs for 12mths then arrange personal import to Australia - and in doing so, provide a stat dec that he's leaving Japan to live in Australia & provide flight details, proof of where he's going to live over here - and then of course, actually go ahead with the move - because that personally imported car will have to be registered here, in his name to avoid it being confiscated.... please, go on, hurry up dude!
    Oh, if you need proof, that's cool, I've been meaning to dust off my old VHS tape player to transfer some of my 1998/9 home moves of burnouts in near new Z's, by all means, put up a challenge :D
     
  20. ZDUCTIV

    ZDUCTIV Active Member

    If only there was a decent way to get 'em here.

    Till then we'll just have to wait until SIM300 gets bored of his.
     

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