3d scanners for interior parts

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by ed300zx, Aug 12, 2013.

  1. ed300zx

    ed300zx Active Member

    Hi,

    Has anyone had any experience with any form of affordable 3d scanners? I'm not a hands on custom mould kind of person and am wanting to make some interior parts through something like Solid Works.

    So I can get an OEM fitment at the end, I was thinking about a 3D scanner to import it into SW and then change the parts from there for either 3d printing or some sort of milling machine process.

    I understand that it would not be cost effective to spend all this money to do a few parts, so maybe selling products in the future could be an option.

    Would probably be better taking the parts to someone with a scanner and retrieving the CAD file from them when talking about only a few items.

    These seem cool but haven't looked for a price yet....afraid to tbh lol. Being hand held, I wouldn't be restricted by product size when scanning either.
    http://www.goscan3d.com/en
    EDIT: 25k......i'll keep looking

    Has anyone had any experience with any 3d scanners?
     
  2. WhiteNight

    WhiteNight Littering and...

    How big are the end products going be be? Anything that's larger than a shoe tends to get expensive for the off the shelf equipment. Cheaper prints have low resolutions and need hand work to finish.

    I have a mate who instead builds one offs like you said, then replicates them using a vacuum resin process, rather than printing them off.
     
  3. ed300zx

    ed300zx Active Member

    Two of the parts I wanted to look at scanning were the centre console finisher and the radio surround bezel. A cool thing about that hand held scanner was that you can make a mould from the scanned object.

    Even just as a cool thing to watch, the video contained in the link in my OP was interesting.
     
  4. QLDZDR

    QLDZDR ID=David

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    You might be able to pick up a preloved MDX-40 4axis CNC milling, which also has a scanning mode. It would do what you want.
    http://teambastech.com/Store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=236
    I only mention it because I have used it.
     
  5. ed300zx

    ed300zx Active Member

    Nice. I'll keep that option in mind too. An all in one product would be ideal. Going by the description, it's pretty straight forward to use.

    Found this mob, it might be an option too.
    http://www.3dprototyping.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=21&Itemid=27
     
  6. lidz

    lidz Well-Known Member

    You should be able to find local companies that will offer a 3D scanning service, I know my brothers uni here in Melbourne has a local guy come out & scan their final year models. They get a group discount price of only a few hundred each, this sort of tech is still fairly new & expensive to buy/rent.

    We use 3D scanning & printing a lot in my line of work, not the smaller scanners but larger 'cloud scanners' that can do a whole car. These are still capable of scanning smaller items though.
    In regards to printed parts though these won't be suitable to actually fit to your car, fine for testing/development, etc but then you'll need to get a part cast or milled.
     
  7. ed300zx

    ed300zx Active Member

    I think casting would be my option for the plastic parts. 3d printing would be to see how it would turn out and fine tuning.

    I would love to own that hand held unit but taking it in somewhere might be the way to go.
     
  8. LittleRedZX

    LittleRedZX Member

    3d scanners and printers

    These guys do 3d scanners and printers.

    http://3dprintersuperstore.com.au/

    I don't know a lot about them but I found this site recently when I was doing a search for other related stuff. I started to get excited when I saw how affordable the printers have become. I remember the days of paying $4-5K for a 3d model of a small control knob. eek!

    These days I am only interested in the prospect of purchasing one for prototyping parts etc for my business. But not a huge priority right now.

    This is exciting stuff though Erik.
     
  9. QLDZDR

    QLDZDR ID=David

    There was a demo of a 3d printer.
    Made handcuffs with chain links and working lock with key inside.
    Pretty good until the key broke in one of the locks. (No spare key)

    It is only suited to prototyping or reproducing rare parts as one-off parts.
    I can see they will be useful for vintage car enthusiasts who are currently afraid to drive their cars for fear of breaking a hard to source part.

    As Erik has mentioned, anyone thinking about these still need to design with casting as the goal for multiple units.

    Hey, why hasn't that CNC enthusiast jumped on this thread.
    (Should it be closed before he finds it :rofl: )
     
  10. black baz

    black baz black 'n blue Bazemy

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO .... !!!!!

    " ..... Hey, why hasn't that CNC enthusiast jumped on this thread.
    (Should it be closed before he finds it ) ............... "
     
  11. QLDZDR

    QLDZDR ID=David

    what about something DESKTOP like this?

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  12. Zano

    Zano Member

    Ya know what would be great...

    If a whole bunch of us AUS300zx members chipped in say $100-200+ to contribute to AUS300ZX in purchasing a U-beaut one of these printers for "AUS300ZX" and started making some stuff for our Zeds !!!!
    It would be kind of like a AUS300 groupbuy for everyone.
    Donating members would get their returns and then we'd have a part supply.
    ???
     
  13. lidz

    lidz Well-Known Member

    ^ like I said above, you can't actually just fit the parts to your car. They're great for prototyping, but they degrade with heat, uv, cold, etc so not suitable for everyday use. We use them a lot on concept cars & they're fine with the model parked up in the studio for several months (ie. controlled environment) but even then in 6 months time stuff will start sagging.

    What you want is one of the new systems that does it in metal!

    Erik honestly your best bet if you go down this path is get your part scanned, play with it on the computer, maybe produce a printed part for test fitting then if your happy with it use the file to have a mold milled & pour parts.
     
  14. ed300zx

    ed300zx Active Member

    Thanks all for the replays.

    Tim, I'm just waiting for a quote from the 3d prototyping guys. Have sent them in photos of the centre console and dash. Like you said, the mould route is going to be the best route to take. Hopefully there will be interest in what I want to do so it will be worth the outlay.

    Still really want that hand scanner though :(
     
  15. Arashi

    Arashi Member

  16. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    I'm having some parts made too, I have a manufacturer that will do everything from 3D scanning, CNC machining the mould, and production in c/f. Drop me a line if you want to chat about it.
     
  17. z-alot

    z-alot Member

    Alot of 3d printing enthusiasts use kinect cameras for opensource 3d scanners., Last time I saw it in action it was pretty rough, may have improved abit.. but definitely this is the long way route good if you like to tinker though but not as nice as complete turn key solutions.

    http://www.open-electronics.org/kinect-for-3d-scans/
     
  18. ed300zx

    ed300zx Active Member

    I meant replies :rolleyes: Stupid auto correct
     
  19. aazn

    aazn New Member

    kick start always have people promoting their version of scanners and printer.. if you get in on kickstart might save you some money.
     
  20. QLDZDR

    QLDZDR ID=David

    Or this, I think they supplied a 3d scanner to the local school
    http://www.bilbycnc.com.au/DispCat.asp?CatID=9
     

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