I have one built in to my alarm too and yes it is standards approved. Handy if I'm in a rush or need to make an unexpected stop -I can arm the immobiliser with the car running and if needed can kill the car via the remote. I can also adjust cool down time on the remote. Same alarm I have for sale in the business section. You don't need a turbo timer, but having the option I do find that I use it.
+1 to this. I have seen a lot of cars with factory turbos that have factory notes or warnings on them to cool the vehicle down after any run.
The alarm may comply with Australian alarm standards however how does the turbo timer component comply with ADR 25? Does anyone know of a Australian Complicence car that has a factory fitted turbo timer? As a side issue are remote start systems legal in Australia? It is difficult to see how they would comply with ADR 25.
Australian Design Rules Basically for a car to be registered in Australian it has to comply with the design rules at the time of manufacture. An AUS spec Z32 will have the list of ADRS it complies with listed on the compliance plate. ADR 25 and 25a - Anti-Theft Locks For example to comply with ADR 41 a unleaded fuel restrictor fitted has to be fitted to the JAP spec Z32. ADR 41
I know what ADRs are... What specifically does ADR25 say? On my phone those links will take ages to load!
ADR 25 specifies that when the key is switched to the off position the engine stops. The key can not be removed without first switching the engine off.
it also states that it has to be operated by a minimum of a 5 tumbler key, as such all those smart keys available on new land cruisers, BMW's and a CRAP load of other cars are either non compliant or something has to have superseded this clause
Vehicles manufactured after 1/7/92 have to comply with ADR 25/02 which has a broader definition of the lock. The engine still has to switch off before the steering lock is activated. ADR 25/02 The are also driving laws to prohibit leaving the engine running in some states. For example NSW. 213 Making a motor vehicle secure 3) If the driver will be over 3 metres from the closest part of the vehicle, the driver must switch off the engine before leaving the vehicle. Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
Gratuitous plug!.........if anyone decides they DO want to run a turbo timer then I have an Apexi one for sale! See my for sale thread here: http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/showthread.php?t=319656
So could I interpret that a timed shut down sequence is a "stop condition" for my engine. its not like the engine runs for an undetermined period of time. its a finite scheduled shutdown procedure that is programed and not bypassable. well no more bypassable than any other aspect of the ignition. as for the argument that fuelpumps dont stop in an accident. they dont anyway unless someone turns the ignition off. Some modern vehicles (Like landrovers) have impact switches on the fuel pumps maybe this should also be made mandatory, it makes more sense than banning a device like a turbo timer. I am not disagreeing with your interpretation of the law I just think that it has the potential to be reinterpreted, I see the clause states "performing an action which is not an uninterrupted continuation of stopping the engine". does this part maybe reerence delayed shutdown as an interruption in the stopping of an engine. Legalese speak dont we love it.
In WA the the law states (1) A driver of a motor vehicle shall not stop and leave a motor vehicle without first- (A) stopping the engine; and (B) effectively applying the hand brake; and blah blah blah..... Heres the link if you want to lose some time. section 181 http://www.slp.wa.gov.au/legislation/statutes.nsf/main_mrtitle_2007_homepage.html
Typically a factory fitted electric fuel pump will switch off automatically after 10-15 seconds if the engine is not running. This is either done by the ECU or wiring the fuel pump with a delay relay to the alternator charge light, oil pressure or rpm switch. If you need to prime a fuel system with an electric pump then you have to switch the ignition on then when you hear the pump stop you switch the ignition off and on again. If you want a definitive answer regarding the legality of fitting a turbo timer in WA then give the Perth Technical section a call on 9216 3880. They are responsible for interpreting the ADRS and NCOP in WA. It still appears to be illegal to use the turbo timer in WA according to the driving laws posted by warren300.
I don't think its a problem TBH, if its all passed with insurance I don't care, also yes the ADR states that but it does turn off, just not straight away, does it say it has to turn off INSTANTLY? Nope Also you'll find with most (mine does anyway since its in the alarm) you cant do ANYTHING else in the car without putting the key back in turning it back on (or also in my case disabling the alarm / immobilizer again) to drive away so I think you are pretty safe there.
ADR 25 specifies that the engine must be switched off when the ignition key is in the off position or removed. 25.1.2 An 'engine off' position shall prevent normal functioning of the engine. 25.1.3 An 'anti-theft' position shall prevent normal functioning of the engine and also inhibit unauthorised use of the vehicle. 25.2.5 When the key is removed, the lock shall be in the 'anti-theft' position.
This is what I am getting at. the turbo timer is part of a shut down proceedure. It is not variable in the sense the engine may or may not turn off. it WILL turn off in the set time frame and all the safety locks will be in place. I am not trying to get up those who are stating the view as it is, I just think the wording is ambiguous and is relying on interpretations. I also know that this is the case with most laws and that is why court cases set precedents to make an accepted interpretation of the law the definition of its use.
