The Douchebag Duo are correct. Only a few absolutely MINT 300's will ever be worth 'collecting' - meantime, enjoy the experience of a fabulous 'drivers car', one of the best looking production sports cars ever built.
in 10 years any z32's that haven't been crashed will have blown up... a point not raised yet is that 300's are hideously unreliable and over-engineered. a more realistic question is "how many will start first time you turn the key in 10 years". yes I know there's the "preventative maintenance" blah blah blah but really if you're some guy looking for an old school thrill, you're not going to hang around to hear about series 2 PTU's when the thing you just came to check out won't even boost properly...
It always comes down to rarity, no matter what vehicle. Find the version they made the least of and that'll be worth the most, even if it sucks...
Still means spare parts (sitting on the fence like a vulture - Just waiting) So what about the other makes of cars that are 30+ years old. Yes, they are a lot simpler, but they are still running. Structural rust in our cars is going to be the problem. Parts and electronics can be replaced/fixed. Subframes not so easy. Simple: Enjoy em while ya got em
I completely disagree... the Z32 is not prone to rust, and where it can it is easy to spot early before it spreads. The point I was making about unreliability is because Z32's are so complicated... the fact that other 30 year old cars are still going because they're simpler only backs that up! The longer we wait, the less specialists there will be for our cars. Sooner or later, there'll be two or three workshops in the whole country who can diagnose a dodgey Zed. That'll make them very undesirable. With a Ferrari people are happy to travel to specialists... because it's a Ferrari.
Yes they are complicated by 20-30 year old standards, but by todays standards they are common. How much have you learned about our cars in the past 12 months. I know I have learnt heaps. Thanks to the posts by the regular forum members. When I lifted the bonnet on my sons 300 2 year ago, I thought no way I would work on one of those. Today I have no probs in having a go at repairs, (Even rewiring) If your going to buy a car just to have someone else work on it then a Zed is not really for you. unless you have well lined pockets. Look at the build you are doing, and a bloody good job as well. A laptop, a good tool kit, and an experienced ear, and most of the problems are solvable. Most of the problems I read here are showing some common areas Fairly sure most of the forum members will be around for a few years yet. Cars on the market in 10 years will be WAY more complicated than ours.
You ought to be banned for speaking such a load of bollocks. :banned: Of all the cars I have owned over the years, my Zed was THE MOST reliable and cost far less in maintenance than other cars I've owned. eg: Jaguar, BMW, Ford, Holden, Jensen, Mazda, Mercedes.
Now thats quite a statement! I can see the rationale behind the statement though in the sense of how this car induces continual maintenance, resulting in longevity via passion. All of the above mentioned I(which I've had a few of) have been left neglected, running in the state they're in because they do not induce said passion. Personally I reckon the statement that provoked your response is due to the fact that their is passion for these rides and its a kick in the nads everytime that the smallest thing is wrong, because we believe it to be perfection and want it to be so at all times. In the persuit of having it perfect at all times we must tool every detail and aspect to keep it so, hence the perception of it being a high-maintenance, over-engineered, money-guzzling whore... or I could be entirely wrong? Oh these Budweisers, I'll have to re-read what I've wrote in the morning to see if it makes any sense.
2 Seater Manual TT Slicktop - well that particular combination usually yields the highest price on the New zealand market. However it's rarity sought me to import one from Japan last year at great expense! Predictions on future pricing is indeed arbitrary, so all I'll say is that I intend to retain my Zeds for as long as possible!
I definitely plan on keeping my Zed as long as i can. But in terms of value availability/rarity is the big thing. In Zimbabwe and South Africa for instance, i doubt they're even in triple digits. On the Nissan owners of SA forum including myself i think there are only 3 or 4. And i saw a '94 TT being sold for about US$25.5 grand here. Even here in Zim i've heard of a resprayed, fair/good condition na go for about US$12 grand. With South Africa's strict import rules and Zim's about to go the same way (as of Nov nothing older than 5 years may be imported), I see my value going up. But it's definitely an enthusiasts car, and those who know what it is, what it's capable of, probably will pay a lot for a good one.
Here's a discussion i read a month or so ago on a similar topic, which recent cars will become future classics. Obviously the Europeans, BMW M and Mercede AMG stuff but they also go through the likes of Nissan, Hondas etc. Brings up some interesting points too,ie Stock vs Modified. And yet somehow none of the guys mention the Z32...maybe in 20 or 30years time
i take more offence... i was correct, andy was a leach on my awesomness... tryinf to be cool by association.
dude in 20-30 years time our cars will be 40 years old and R35 GTR's will have replaced them.... z32's will be rare but doesnt mean they are valuable... plenty of rare cars out there but plenty arent even worth their weight in scrap no matter how good a condition
