x-pipe query...

Discussion in 'Technical' started by pennyarvs, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. pennyarvs

    pennyarvs New Member

    Will this x-pipe:




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    ...be fine to combine with this setup?




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  2. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    I don't see why not. Might be some issues to get it all lined up, maybe some extra bends, but should work :D
     
  3. pennyarvs

    pennyarvs New Member

    Thanks man. Was thinking of how to fabricate the bends if ever modification is needed.

    Thanks for your input...
     
  4. MoulaZX

    MoulaZX #TEAMROB

    Hey Arvin, theres a good place in Mt Druitt, they did my exhaust last week and im taking it back there tomorrow morning to get my resonators installed, he does pretty good work. If thats all you want done pretty sure he'd be more then happy to do it for you. Just don't even hint of doing anything with the dump pipes, he'll flat out refuse and I don't blame him at 'all'. I took my stock ones off last week while the gearbox was out and it still was no picnic.

    MoulaZX
     
  5. pennyarvs

    pennyarvs New Member

    Darn man! I've got a hwole set of exhaust ready to replace my single. It's from dumps-back. Sheeeesh! I don't wanna go back to carline mobsters as much as possible... :(
     
  6. pennyarvs

    pennyarvs New Member

    Definitely need a pair of pipes to connect the tip of the cats to the dump pipes, isn't it?
    Where will it be best to position the x-pipe if ever?




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  7. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    What dumps?

    The popular tuneagent style dumps usually come with front pipes, so you go

    dumps, cats, x-pipe, cat back

    This is my old system

    Cats flanged to bolt up with front pipes

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    then the rear/muffler section coming off the x-pipe

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    This is a shot of my new system, same deal (dumps to cats to x-pipe to rear section) but with the x pipe up alot closer to the cats. Supposed to be better for performance.... definately works on back back dyno runs on big NA motors, but not sure if forced induction would change the rules.

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    Yours will be a little different as using different parts, but same idea. It is also going to be a noisy bastard with no centre mufflers at all.
     
  8. pennyarvs

    pennyarvs New Member

    I've got a pair of N*power dumps but unfortunately no front pipes. As per diagram below, my dumps (red) will be followed by a front pipe (green), which I might get fabricated from my old system. Will then bolt on straight to the cat:




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    But if I will be having a centre muffler, where will I position it? Place it directly behind the cat (yellow) then move the cat (blue arrow) closer to the dump (might need to fabricate a shorter front pipe)? Is my diagram below correct?




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  9. supersonic

    supersonic New Member

    i think the cats are supposed to be a certain distance down the exhaust path so moving them back and forth may be an EPA issue but dont quote me on it.

    maybe put the x-pipe in the straight sections just after the cats. you will have to chop a fair bit of it for the x-pipes.

    or dump the straight sections altogether and get the x-pipe fabricated after the cat. could be easier than F'ing around with bends and fitting etc etc.. its not like the exhaust shop will be short on pipes.

    anyway i think you should also speak to your exhaust guy see what he thinks :)
     
  10. pennyarvs

    pennyarvs New Member

    Would also like to hear from you as to how "restricting" my present exhaust sytem is.


    Got stock dumps. Then two 2.5" pipes (from the dumps) join together posteriorly to a common cat. **Take note of the politically incorrect positioning of the cat temp sensors (including putting both of them connected to just a single pipe!!!) :bash:



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    And lastly, the catback (to a single large cannon)... :vomit:




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  11. supersonic

    supersonic New Member

    i personally disagree with the single cat.

    but i know Bryan (O'Connor TV) runs a single exhaust and prefers it over the twin. not sure if hes running 1 or 2 cats though.
     
  12. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    If you already have 2.5" front pipes then yes you may be able to use them.

    Consider the price of a new dump/front pipe combo, it's SFA really. Might be cheaper just to buy a new set of dump and front pipes (and sell the spare dumps) OR buy a set of tuneagent/n*power/etc if you can find them. This Chinese made stuff is veeeery cheap compared to paying your exhaust shop by the hour.

    Re muffler ideally you want x-pipe/muffler in one like I am using. Otherwise you are going to need smaller mufflers and position them after the balance/x-pipe like in the factory system.
     
  13. gaz300

    gaz300 Member

    X pipe should be fitted after the cats I have japspeed fitted like this
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  14. pennyarvs

    pennyarvs New Member

    Thanks for sharing those pics and ideas. What advantages/disadvantages does it pose to having the x-pipe after the cats? And same question goes to having just an x-pipe and no centre muffler besides being "too loud"?
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  15. Mr G

    Mr G Active Member

    My X-pipe

    Get the set-up right and it should feel like the car's had a tune-up, very smooth and a nice deep sound without being a burbling drone. Went from this:

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  16. supersonic

    supersonic New Member

    i dont have a centre muffler. got those "silencer" things in the big ugly hks cannons and its not PITA loud or droning. just that you constantly know you have a big F'ing exhaust.

    anyway im sure you have to put the x-pipe after the cats. the cats cant be too far away it needs exhaust gases to be hot to work properly.
     

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