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  1. shyzx

    shyzx New Member

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    quick question as everione knows zeds have crap as lock while turning, just wondering if theres a way to increase the lock without having to modify the knuckles in any sort of way
    all my mates have s13's and 180sx and they all buy lock spacers to install on the steering rack is there anything like that for the zeds

    cheers
     
  2. waynoz

    waynoz New Member

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    turn hard in the direction you want to go, rev it up a bit then drop the clutch, allow back end to spin around to the direction you want to be facing.. re-engage clutch and apply brake then proceed to accelerate at usual pace...
     
  3. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    Yes.
     
  4. Sanouske

    Sanouske Retired Moderator

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    Looks pretty cool aye anti. Did we ever get a longevity report back on these addons?
     
  5. articdragon192

    articdragon192 Member

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    went 4 years without issues.
     
  6. Sanouske

    Sanouske Retired Moderator

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    Hey hey. The man himself.

    Good-o. Didn't think there was ever an issue but always good to ask. Makes a huge difference from the looks of it all.
     
  7. kawasakirider

    kawasakirider New Member

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    I really want to do this, how much?
     
  8. kawasakirider

    kawasakirider New Member

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    How much are the parts and where do I get them from I mean, sorry, pretty tired lol.
     
  9. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    Try CZP?
     
  10. articdragon192

    articdragon192 Member

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    the parts are pretty cheap. And yes, they make a massive difference. U-turns are a piece of cake.
     
  11. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    When I drove your old car I went to do a u-turn and simply... never hit full lock O_O
     
  12. andy

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    Adding spacers to the rack should result in increased bump steer as they change the steering geometry by moving the tie rod pivot point further out.

    Bump steer means that the wheels will toe in and out (steer) during suspension travel. This "self steering" happens because the tie rods and control arms are moving in different arcs. If you put the car on a wheel alignment machine and plot the bump steer with and without the spacers you should find the spacers caused an increase in bump steer.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. articdragon192

    articdragon192 Member

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    It does add bumpsteer for sure. But it's nothing crazy. I road race the car just fine. The bumpsteer isn't that apparent. Then again, I also have rose jointed outer tie rods with some bumper steer correction.
    [​IMG]
     
  14. DotDotDot

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    This would make life so much easier around some of the places I go, looked on CZP, didn't find anything similar, anyone have any ideas?
     
  15. andy

    andy Member

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    The first question is does the Z32 rack have any travel that can be taken advantage of by using spacers?

    If the Z32 rack is already using all of its travel left and right then adding spacers will not achieve anything other than alter the bump steer.
     
  16. articdragon192

    articdragon192 Member

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    yes it does. Look at how much more travel you gain with the spacers. I went from 2.5 revolutions of the steering wheel, to 3 full turns, lock to lock. those are pictures of the install on my personal car. adding the spacers adds rack travel therefore allowing a better steering radius.
    Also, trimming the bump stops will help if the bump stops are limiting travel after the spacer install.
     
  17. lurker_nz

    lurker_nz New Member

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    Or you could just file down the stops on the rack that restict the turn circle eh
     
  18. articdragon192

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    I'm sure the rack travel limits it more than the bump stops. I didn't need to touch my bump stops until I had the slip on/ bolt on spacer combo.
     
  19. shyzx

    shyzx New Member

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    who were can i buy these for the zeds lol
     
  20. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

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    I'm yet to remove the shims on my LCA to see how much more lock I can get .

    But obviously limited by the rack itself?

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2012

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