Zed on gas

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by loud'n'proud, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. loud'n'proud

    loud'n'proud Challenge Accepted

    Messages:
    3,662
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Has anyone seen or heard if you can put a zed on gas?

    I swear on the way home from motorvation i saw a white NA aus spec with gas badge on its plates...

    can it be done?
     
  2. MAX

    MAX Ex Zedder

    Messages:
    1,938
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    38
    of couse it could be done

    But it would not be worth doing. Also there would be F all room to get all the gear in under the bonnet and even worse with a twin TB. Anything could be done but on a zed it would be ridiculous. Also there would be no gain and dual fuel could only be done to a NA straight gas system for a TT.
     
  3. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    Messages:
    8,092
    Likes Received:
    122
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Well I disagree,

    There is just no one that has done it.

    You dont have to do anything with throttle bodies. All good Gas kits now use gas injectors.

    If I was going to do this. I would rip ALL petrol related equipment off the car and make it 100% gas. Refit and mod the plenum so gas injectors are in place of the normal injectors. You could even remove the cats and all other pollution euipment and it would still pass EPA

    A 2 seater would be best as the gas tank is roughly the same size as the petrol tank and could fit in the same place under the car behind the front seats.

    The new gas systems come with piggy back ECUs and run a car very well.

    One day I may just do it as well. :D Great for a dailey driver.

    Gas and TT engines are a good match !!
     
  4. vbevan

    vbevan Active Member

    Messages:
    3,025
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Not so sure. Where would you put the gas bottle to hold the LPG? I thought it was illegal to have in the boot as it's a hatch and not separate from the drivers cabin.
     
  5. scump

    scump John Dorian

    Messages:
    1,375
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    i agree completely! tek is right, ive been thinkin about it ey...

    aslong as its a full gas conversion it should be all good, gas tank where the petrol tank goes, and since gas combusts hotter then petrol, a massive radiator and maybe bonnet vents would help alot.

    also remember gas has a octane rating of like 110 octane, so you can run more boost! always helps hey.

    but yer im contemplating a full gas conversion in the future, after i start working full time would be better :D

    but to answer the initial question, i dont think it has been done yet... but yes it can definatly be done.
     
  6. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    Messages:
    8,092
    Likes Received:
    122
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Directly behind the front seats in a coupe is the petrol tank. Its a big square box.

    You can pull the tank straight out and a fair size gas tank would go straight back in the same spot. It is OUTSIDE the car.
     
  7. scump

    scump John Dorian

    Messages:
    1,375
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    plus remember a 75L petrol tank would be about the same size as a 120L gas tank, should check it out online.
     
  8. Z-Force

    Z-Force SHIFT_Charizma

    Messages:
    1,222
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Who let you back on Josh? :)

    Oh damn...

    He's back.

    I was enjoying my stay on the forum while you were gone. It was like being on a deserted island...I was sipping coconut juice while watching the tide come in...

    Now all of a sudden my cosy dream of solitude and quiet time has been abruptly woken up loudly and proudly.

    Whatever you did to get banned the first time...do it again please Josh.

    I want my fantasy back dammit. :mad:

    Cheers
    Rob ;)
     
  9. vbevan

    vbevan Active Member

    Messages:
    3,025
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Of course. I assumed he was talking about a dual fuel car. :p
     
  10. loud'n'proud

    loud'n'proud Challenge Accepted

    Messages:
    3,662
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    48
    dude the last fantasy you told me about was with my neighbour...


    be glad it was only a fantasy... you would have caught something :confused: :confused: :confused: :( :( :( :(
     
  11. Z-Force

    Z-Force SHIFT_Charizma

    Messages:
    1,222
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Hmmm...

    I didn't tell you about the one involving your mum?

    Just as well...better keep that one to myself... :D

    Now be gone! Before I start catching the "Post Whorus" effect myself...

    Rob.
     
  12. loud'n'proud

    loud'n'proud Challenge Accepted

    Messages:
    3,662
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    48
    hahaha.. well then you'd be more inclined to find a cure for it lol
     
  13. IBBI

    IBBI Active Member

    Messages:
    1,175
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Sydney
    If you say gas has 110 octane and would be better for turbos, ive heard there is a considerable drop in power when using gas....could someone enlighten me on this one..

    cheers
     
  14. dalostcambo

    dalostcambo New Member

    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I've sold my 300ZX and the new owner is ACTUALLY going to do a straight gas conversion..

    I'll let you guys know when he actually starts it.
     
  15. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    Messages:
    8,092
    Likes Received:
    122
    Trophy Points:
    63
    True if you are talking about the old Gas emitter system. Not true or very little true if you use a gas injection system.

    With gas injection the difference is minimal if at all.
     
  16. IBBI

    IBBI Active Member

    Messages:
    1,175
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Sydney
    Thats great then......even though dad gets like 600km with a tank on a TT motor, getting gas would be even better.....I do know most plp get like 450-500km per tank but i take it that has a little more city driving and also drive it a little harder, my dad litterally accelerates to like 60 in 10 seconds..okay maybe a little fast than that but his nearly 60yo.

    Anyways i think ill get rid of the zed as dad drives it daily and i dont think its really suited to him and as its an old car probably also needs ongoing maintainence and mod bug costs. Probably get him a volvo, saab or audi for him and get a zed after i finish uni for myself.........

    anyways great to hear gas has the green for performance aswell....

    btw there are rebates on gas systems right....so how much does it cost from pocket?
     
  17. kolin

    kolin New Member

    Messages:
    351
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I was advised last year that the new gas injectors

    will max out at 300hp and that the refit cost will be about $3000 not counting the rebates etc,
     
  18. Zanjara

    Zanjara Free Candy!

    Messages:
    1,785
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The rebates are on stock gas system... Something for a zed if you really wanted to do it would be a gas research system.. In other words you are spending close to 10g's for the right setup... Yes gas has a higher octane reading but also you got to remember you got to build the heads to suit the gas in the first place... at 100,000kms service when you get it done on anycar that has gas you also need to have the heads done as well which means more $$$ Gas runs hotter and you dont get more kms to a tank on gas then you do with unleaded.... You either run one or the other and as what Graham said the newer type gas stand alone systems run gas injectors and a piggy back ecu for it But then again my old VL that was dual fuel had its own piggy back ecu for the gas anyways hehe :D

    All this playing around and it will take so long to even get your moneys worth with gas... I rather stick to unleaded :zlove:
     
  19. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    Messages:
    8,092
    Likes Received:
    122
    Trophy Points:
    63
    OK well you put two injectors per cylinder
     
  20. Jinxed

    Jinxed Moderator

    Messages:
    8,220
    Likes Received:
    35
    Trophy Points:
    48
    hey josh rob(lazyzed) was thinking of gas for a while

    and im pretty sure he did a fair bit of research on it?.....maybe give him a yell to get some more info?


     

Share This Page