Modifying stock tb's

Discussion in 'Technical' started by Jamie, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. Jamie

    Jamie Jamie The Hobbit

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    I've just gotten off of the phone with a local member that's got quite an impressive Z. Due to the fact that he's on holidays I couldn't exactly get the facts straight. But from what he said on the phone, he recommended that I don't bother upgrading TB's as you can modify the stock ones to flow 17% more. He started going into depth but it was too hard to explain and stated that he'll show me once he's back from holidays.

    Has anyone tried this/know of anyone doing it?
     
  2. ABZ300

    ABZ300 G

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    Jamie you can bore out the stock tb's to max size which i think is like 53mm if i remember correctly. Ive got a set off Noel (Wildzx)...i remember he had a thread on it & was selling a few. Maybe contact him & see if he has anymore to sell

    Abraham
     
  3. Jinxed

    Jinxed Moderator

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    ive got a set of pzp oversize throts id sell you happily. not going to use them myself.....

    let me know if keen.
     
  4. Jamie

    Jamie Jamie The Hobbit

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    I'm just looking into it at this stage, the member who's close to me did his himself so i'll more then likely just get him to do it.
     
  5. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

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    Stop drinking the kool aid
     
  6. ABZ300

    ABZ300 G

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    So thats where my kool aid had gone!!! :p

    Abraham
     
  7. Eggs

    Eggs Member

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    Does this modification require larger butterflys to be fitted?
     
  8. ABZ300

    ABZ300 G

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    The one ive got has performance butterflies...i remember being told that you can have standard or performance but still have oversized tb's. Hope that helps.

    Abraham
     
  9. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

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    44 mm TB's (such as on my Pullstart) will support in excess of 350Hp......each.
    Larger TB's will simply flow more air for the same amount of pedal. Makes you FEEL like you have more powah! Nice placebo effect if nothing else. Also nice for bragging rights at the local chew and spew!!!...Meh!

    E
     
  10. SRB-2NV

    SRB-2NV #TEAMROB

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    I remember John at UAS saying that two 50mm TB's are close to having a single 80mm TB or something along those lines.
     
  11. ezzupturbo

    ezzupturbo JDMAutomotive

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    And if you get board try this.... looked way to tekky for me
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  12. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

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    Single 50mm throttle body has an area of 1963.5mm square, each feeding a 1.5L three cylinder motor. 80mm TB has an area of 5026.5mm square. So not quite the same but I still think Jamie has more important things to worry about...
     
  13. Jamie

    Jamie Jamie The Hobbit

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    Not wrong there, but while the information was fresh in my mind I wanted to check and see if it could be done.
     
  14. badxtc

    badxtc kirby's bitch

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    performance butterflies ???
     
  15. bRACKET

    bRACKET Do Right Dean

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    My thoughts exactly...

    If you bore out the stock TB's then you need to change your butterflies, otherwise air will just leak past the gaps.
     
  16. ABZ300

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    Alex i dont remember exactly what Noel told me...but he gave me 2 options. Maybe "performance" is the wrong word but there was definitely a better option

    Abraham
     
  17. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    It's really simple- if you bore out the OEM TB's the butterfly's won't be big enough to block the hole = bigger "performance" butterflys required. the butterfly needs to be matched to the bore
     
  18. XKGB

    XKGB New Member

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    Originally Posted by ABZ300
    Alex i dont remember exactly what Noel told me...but he gave me 2 options. Maybe "performance" is the wrong word but there was definitely a better option




    its like the blind leading the blind
     
  19. BoneZ (MD)

    BoneZ (MD) Doc

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    I've gotten two sets from Rob- one of bored out Stanzas and another of bored out Z32 TB...

    If only just for the info and process: http://www.twinturbo.net/nissan/300...-54mm-TBs-and-replacement-spring-spacers.html

    If you search his threads you will find that many of the questions posed here were discussed there as well.

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  20. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

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    yep good info on that thread .

    spoke to Robert Bastian about my modded Z1 58mm which are just over 500cfm each
    (which is what I needed for my build)


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