Schapelle Corby...what do you think???

Discussion in 'Z Related - Non Technical' started by Noxter69, May 19, 2005.

  1. Noxter69

    Noxter69 New Member

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    Prior to watching her "untold story" last night, I was neither here nor there about her innocent / guilt. Having watched it, I think there's a stronger case for her to be innocent than there is one against her. I for one think she's innocent and that's not because her case has received great media attention for her looks etc.

    Rumours demystified (for the benifit of those who missed the show) :

    1) Has only travelled to Bali twice in the last 5 years.
    2) Her sister and Indonesian husband both work on the Gold Coast, they do not own a surf shop in Bali.
    3) Australian hash fetch a premium price over in Bali as opposed to locally cultivated ones.

    So given the above, what's the general consensus on this forum regarding Schapelle Corby?

    Ta.:)
     
  2. Jeffro

    Jeffro New Member

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    To be honest i missed the show - my gf taped it so will be

    watching later though i must admit i at first had her pegged as guilty but then thought about the following
    * why would she take ganja over there? Wouldn she be bringing it back from there? As in to me it would be like importing cocaine into Columbia - no point
    * Also i have been to Bali and the airport honestly scared me - as in u step off the plane and there are signs everywhere and i mean everywhere telling you that crimes relating to drugs = death, assault = death etc etc so i had thought if she had been there before surely she couldnt be so stupid and or desperate but now im swayed into thinking she might be guilty by both
    * 'The Bali 9' who these guys had clearly been to Bali before and knew the risks but still went ahead with it
    * and the wat u said about the program saying that Aussie weed goes for a higher premium than locally cultivated stuff.

    Who knows, all i know is that Bali is a beautiful holiday destination with beautiful people, sights and great shopping. I travelled there months after the bali bombing and spoke to locals who so desperately depend on the tourist dollar and the devastation that the terrorism had impacted and it was slowly back on the mend, now who knows - especially if it is found that Schappele is innocent - no one will venture there for fear of becoming an innocent courier and the tourism along with the people will suffer.

    There u go, didn want to sound like i was on Oprah filming an ad for world vision or anything, just my 2 cents!
     
  3. red32

    red32 You talkin' to me?

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    I'll wait for the trial transcript!

    There is so much emotion associated with this case that it is almost impossible to form an enlightended opinion.
    She (Schapelle) looks cute, sounds sincere, cries a lot, (who wouldn't, in a foreign jail, facing a possible death penalty). The recent breaking story about the Qantas cargo-handlers being suspended because of possible association with drug handling may well strengthen her case, but we still have to wait for the decision of the Indonesion Judge.
    Good luck, Schapelle
     
  4. Boll!

    Boll! Active Member

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    She is being f@#ked over!!!!

    I think it comes down to one thing, it is far from being a positive financial move to try and sell the shit over their when you can get so much for it here.
    It just doesnt make sense!!
     
  5. IB

    IB ?????

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    I just know I'll never travel to Indonesia
     
  6. Vincent

    Vincent New Member

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    The Indonesian legal system and its judiciary are more than capable....

    of determining her guilt/innocence.

    If innocent - great, good for her. If found guilty, then she deserves what she gets. Drug traffickers are scum and must be punished in accordance with the laws of the country where they are charged.

    This media hype in Australia is crap as far as I'm concerned.

    My opinion only.........

    CheerZ
    Vincent
     
  7. Steven

    Steven Active Member

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    know I'll never travel to Indonesia ... bingo

    Especially given the chief judges statement; that he is not concerned with what happened in Australia but only with Bali.

    The part about their justice system being also based on "innocent until proven guilty" ... is absolute crap, if you don't take into account where & when the "crime" actually started.

    To me the whole case (especially given life in prison or the death penalty) should be thrown out due to it being "not beyond all reasonable doubt". Seven months in a Indonesian jail is good enough punishment for not "locking ones luggage".

    As for the bali Nine; well "sorry, but drugs straped to your body" (or in your stomach or up your bum) then that to me is "beyond all reasonable doubt"; and if the punishment is death-by-firing-squad then so be it.
     
  8. Fate

    Fate Evil Genius

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    I swear i heard someone just order a HITMAN :cool::cool:

    Theres too many things pointing to her guilt.

    She's been locked up for long enough, If i saw the guards pushing one of my mates round like that. ( BANG ) DEAD. Don't give a rats ass.

    Though these people are SCUM lets treat them semi humanely til we can prove they did it.

    As for the bali 9 GIMME A GUN i'll fix em, I'd shoot them in the knee caps and make them crawl and beg for forgiveness.

    Didn't see the show and glad i didn't, it's leading this case on longer and longer.

    Either let her go or shoot her dead,

    NEXT...

    Destined by Fate
     
  9. Vincent

    Vincent New Member

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    Dude, watch that caffeine intake! ;);)
     
  10. XCRUZXx

    XCRUZXx The Flying Scotsman

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    Why don't they just give her a sentence get it over with

    Talk about milking it for all it's worth,somebody is going to make a lot of money out of this!
     
  11. aK

    aK Banned

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    Vincent is right-

    The indonesian government has enough people to arrest dealing drugs and import/exporting to set up inoccent ppl if thats what some ppl are suggesting.

    And remember if you want to have an objective and un bias opinion on her guilt then you cant watch a program which has been designed and prepared for you to watch and feel she's innocent.

    Im sure if the indonesians did the same all the people in indonesia would agree she's guilty. Its amazing how the media can manupilate peoples minds as they like.

    But none the less everyone should be treated equally no matter what country you are from. I was watching another story on ACA about some dude whos an australian citezen being arrested by Kuwaite for a reason unknown and the Australian government were involved in torturing him in Kuwaite and they couldnt give a damn about getting him back to his 2 young sons in OZ because his from another background. Also the European and Philipino Woman where one was deported to phillipines and the other put in a detention center. And the refugees who run away from war to a better life in a country which is under populated (OZ) and are put in jails like animals for years. And the Australians who were arrested for terrorism and tortured for 3yrs before being realist without charge.

    So whats so different about her? because she's a fair dinkim ozy? and has blue eyes and looks pretty? Its sad i know but in the end we are all human no matter what race or colour or what passport we hold and its only fair we get treated equally. I say if a givernment which is fighting drugs and the scums shipping them for many years is capable of finding her guilty or not guilty. And if an foreigner from a poor country is found guilty and shot why should a more privlidged scum live?

    Its sad either way but if the drugs she was carring got onto the streets it would have effected the lives of over 4000 people. As for her being guilty or not it should be up to the people in charge of the process not bias people like us. And the other nine with herion should be made an example of and shot.

    Its frustrating as an solcialigist to see how many peoples lives world wide are effected by drugs and the numbers that die from the direct actions of these dealers around the world is sickening. Atleast the Indonsian government is doing somthing bout it to hit back and not opening up shop for junkies to come and shoot up in like in sydney. They walk in get high and walk back into the streets with society and lil kids swearing at jesus and everyone that walks past them.

    Fate maybe you should try your hitman skills on the drug dealers and their puppets and all the junkies not on people who are on your side and trying to stop drugs from reaching kids. they can be yours oneday
     
  12. Z-ster

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    I agree
     
  13. WOKBURNER

    WOKBURNER Bringer of fun and mayhem

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    TO QUOTE A WISE MAN (CHILI) TAKING DOPE TO BALI IS LIKE

    TAKING A TRUCKLOAD OF SEA WATER TO BONDI!:wacko::wacko:
    She is being fucked over, and how can you call it JUSTICE if she gets goaled for life and the PRICK that orderes the Bali bombings gets 2.5 fucking years. :thumbsdown: FUCKERS.
     
  14. Steven

    Steven Active Member

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    Rethink

    I don't think anyone has suggested she was setup.

    Actually NO ... what is different is in the majority of "average" Australian eyes she could be their daughter or sister ... which means it is a lot easier for the "average" Australian to relate to on a personal level.

    IMHO, he should be compensated for unlawfull imprisonment and for social and economic hardship caused.

    As for Detention Centres and deportation ... well maybe Ammanda should experience it first hand.

    And from the footage shown; the people charged with processing don't always appear to be acting professionally... i.e. how many hands need to be photographed holding the evidence. Talk about "poluting the evidence". The whole thing could of been so easily resolved if the instant the drugs were found they isolated the bag and the drugs and looked for finger-prints ... if there is no prints of her's (or that of her family) but those of other persons are on the drug container then there is a pritty good bet she knew nothing about the drugs.
    Secondly, a major internalational terminal without security footage of baggage search area ... "come on" what better weapon for the prosecuter. No footage then it is all here-say on what she or the security-officer said and or did.

    Not if they are not prepared to view the entire timeline of the crime and not just from when the drugs landed in Bali.

    Given the recent Qantas baggage handler incidents, it is clearly possible that the instant you check your luggage in then you don't know what could happen. ... "hay, that is my Camel suit"

    Something to think about next time you go home.
     
  15. richo

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    The networks already have :)

    As much as what we've seen lately seems to *prove* she's innocent - keep in mind people that it's all conjecture, and nothing more. We'll never know the truth behind Schapelle's case regardless of verdict.
     
  16. THEZED

    THEZED Loose Screws Inside

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    I dont think the indonesian police are doing a good job

    'cos in the entire case, they gave contradictory accounts of how she (Corby) was caught and no one could produce any solid evidence (other then it was in her bag) to whether the drugs was Corby's. For crying out loud, the court even accepted without question the fact that the police didnt take any finger prints off the bag when they found it?!? What kind of a legal system is that? I am quite sure if they finger printed it, it might even help resolve the baggage handling case over here! (and at the same time either strengthen Corby's case or weaken it but at least it will cement the facts in!)

    And the most disturbing thing I heard on TV was an excerpt from one interview with the police investigators from Indonesia, the question asked was why didnt they catch the people responsible for transfer of drugs prior to the (9) drug mules recieving them? (since the police claimed that they knew of the transfer and were tailing all the people involved) The answer was something along the lines that they didnt want to catch the big fish and alert them (that the police was on to them) so they went after the small fish (the drug mules) instead? What kind of a crap answer is that?

    No offence to the indonesians or any indonesians for that matter but I am beginning to think that the indonesian police may be in league with the drug lords, or very simply they are afraid of the drug lords and to make it look like they are still doing their jobs, they take on "defenseless criminals" rather than risk going into a rather risky proposition of catching hardened criminals!

    Just my opinion though, but I really think the whole issue reeks of foul play on the part of the police.

    :thumbsdown:
     
  17. aK

    aK Banned

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    Even the police commissioner said it was unlikely it was put in her bag=

    He thinks she's guilty. The law is not on her side

    but then again the law is very fckud up

    oh well lets c how it plays out-
     
  18. Noxter69

    Noxter69 New Member

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    If you follow the "baggage handling" chain of thoughts...

    then no matter where you travel, you may be an innocent victim, not just Bali. It has been said that her baggage was tampered with at Sydney airport and not in Bali. :unsure:
     
  19. Noxter69

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    Do you think the transcript will be published for Australians...

    to see? :unsure:
     
  20. pexzed

    pexzed Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    Re: Do you think the transcript will be published for Australians...

    I think innocent "from what I have seen"

    And I like others would never travel there now.

    Even if found guilty, there are two appeal processes that can be undertaken

    If she is found guilty, maybe aussies should boycott Bali for 27 years or so :rolleyes:
     

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