Bought a new project

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  1. MikeZ32

    MikeZ32 das Über member

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    Done nothing to the Supra other than sell off the Stern wheels and put Z stockies on.

    They suit the Supra weirdly well.

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  2. MikeZ32

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    Spent my Straya day trying to fix the axle tramp in the S13. This will come in handy for anyone looking to fix their tramping issues as the S13 rear suspension/subframe is basically the same as the Z32.

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    NOTE: Realistically, there is only one proper solution: change ALL bushes in the subframe and related suspension parts, did this on the Z but that was a very expensive exercise.

    Here's the cheaper and easier alternative:


    Need:

    Subframe Collars - $45 to $70 delivered. You can find them pretty much anywhere online.

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    Some 2nd hand suspension arms. Easily found from $150 to $200 and yes you can just buy a full S13 set and it will fit on a Z.

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    Lift up the car and ensure it's safe. As you need to lower the subframe, I had a few extra jack stands under the car just to make sure if it falls, it doesn't land on me! Undo 2 mounts at a time that way it will lower but not fall down.

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    Here's a complete tutorial on lowering the subframe:


    All the bushes in the subframe are old and perished. Would be nice to change them all some day but for now, slipped the top collar in and put the bottom collar on the mount and pieced it all back together.

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    I was planning on changing all the rear arms but for now I only fitted the pillow ball traction rod which seems like the one that would have the main impact on holding the whole lot steady while accelerating. No point doing the rest if you don't need to.

    Measured out the length using the stock arm and refitted:

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    Keeping it simple, here's the bare minimum done so far that should make the biggest difference:

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    Having taken it out for a good test in the dry, the tramping is now gone and there is more traction overall.

    Normally when it starts spinning the rear wheels it'll tramp more in the wet so I'll have to test it on the next wet day before giving it two thumbs up.

    There is a downside to this though, the collars are extremely harsh and almost equivalent to solid mounting your subframe. Lots of road noise and vibrations are now felt more in the cabin.
     
  3. ugame

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    Nissan mags on a toyota. Oh the heresy. I love it.

    Oddly enough, when I was selling stock 350Z rims, a guy wanted them for .......his Hilux.
     
  4. Fists

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    We may have to concede some points on the engines (because Yamaha got involved) but Nissan totally make better wheels than toyota
     
  5. MikeZ32

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    Oath! I had another set of Z stockies and a guy with a Toyota Soarer bought them. So if anyone has stockies, chuck them on Toyota forums or FB groups, they love them! No Z owner wants them these days :p

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    Mainly due to weight I'd say. A stock A70 Supra wheel came with the car, it was an inch narrower yet it weighed twice as much as a stock Z wheel.

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    1JZ is pretty damn awesome though, takes a redline beating regularly and sounds great doing it.
     
  6. Fists

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    Huh, on the MR2 they look really good, they're even big enough on that car. I wish we'd got 17"s from factory, 16" is a just a bit small on a Z.
     
  7. ugame

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    They DO look good on a MR2. wow.

    However, given they're "worthless" if you have a complete and correct set of stockies in GOOD condition, I'd actually recommend you hold on to them.

    There will be a time in the not too distant future when you wont be able to find a set, and you'll want to. Oh you'll want to.
     
  8. MikeZ32

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    Big thanks to Chrispy for checking out this car for me. I know yellow ain't your thing but it's my favourite colour for this shape.

    Took 2 weeks to get it down from QLD to VIC and even longer to negotiate a deal with the orig owner. She arrived today but with some damage to the front lip. *RAGE* :mad:

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    So this is the new build for 2017. All the other cars now taking a back seat if I don't end up selling them. Except the Z :zlove:

    It's no where near acceptable overall, the to do list is bigger than I thought but drive train thankfully has been addressed:

    Rebuilt 13B with unbreakable seals and dowelled
    Bridgeport, braps good, idles ok... @ 1800rpm :eek:
    T04Z with a 1.0 rear housing, Power FC

    Still on stock injectors so need at least 1000cc secondaries, retune and once she's finally running right I'll start doing the rest.

    Coilovers, maybe a bit of bolt on aero and leaning towards RPF1s simply due to light weight and light cost... Still not sure on a blue on yellow (Go Sweden) look or stick to the tried and true black interior. Some inspiration from the virtual garage. NT03Ms are growing on me.

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  9. sandeep

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    Nice buy Mikey, you finally have an RX7. Living the Japanese sports car dream, just need a GTR...
     
  10. lidz

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    Very nice addition Mike, super jealous!
    Can't go wrong with rpf1's but I'm a big fan of the mazda speed wheels on these

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  11. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

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    No worries Mike, should be a nice car once the little issues and interior are fixed up.
     
  12. ugame

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    NICE mate

    I'm sure I dont need to tell you that these are already an appreciating asset IF.....IF in excellent condition. Dont fk it up :)
    https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1993-mazda-rx~7
    (chart is US prices of course but global price trends apply)
     
  13. MikeZ32

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    I've actually been looking at R33 GTRs... ;) it's also a good investment. Plenty out there going for cheaper than R32s. If I wasn't dead set on this car, I might have bought one. Maybe you should get the R33 *hint hint*


    I do like them, made by Rays for Mazda like our LMGT4s but I wanted to swing away from the 5 spoke look as I've already done that with the Z. If the centre bore wasn't off by 1mm I would put my spare 17" LMGTs on this thing :D


    Yep, all 90s stuff has finally started to gain some value. Turbo S13 prices doubled since I bought it, not motivated to sell the other cars right now other than the fact maintaining them all is a bit of a headache. Anyone thinking of selling the Z, unless it's broken, don't do it, they're going up along with everything else from this period.
     
  14. ugame

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    what even a Sil80?

    I guess for a time, even the frankenstien's will have some value, but going forward, it will be only the very rare factory mint examples.

    Oddly, started thinking about Silvia's today again also.

    Want to build an entry level tarmac rally car, and 2003 350Z's are still too pricey to be a viable starting point for me.

    Ideally I'd want a hail damage car or something with cosmetic imperfections bringing the price down, but solid mechanicals.

    Meh, I could always just throw money at performance parts for the beetle :D
     
  15. MikeZ32

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    not talking collector pieces here, just average value generally higher. All S13s and even S14s on the market now were drifted and crashed so as long as your rails are straight it has value. A museum piece is not something I'd ever bother with, can't drive around in fear of a dent / scratch.
     
  16. ugame

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    I can actually predict the car market 100%

    Any car I'm currently looking to buy has gone UP in value since I last looked.

    Any car I currently want to sell has gone DOWN in value since I last looked.

    :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  17. ugame

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    I made a chart, and sadly, I actually put some thought into this lol

    The budget line is there for LOL's though, but it's what happens to many of us.

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    SELF CORRECTION:

    Car in question is NOT a Sil80! It is of course a Onevia.

    It's important we get these things correct and I'm sorry :bash:

    Sil80
    180sx body with the nose of a normal S13 silvia, giving a more aggressive look, while maintaining the sleek fastback hatch.
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    Onevia
    .....the left overs :br:
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  19. MikeZ32

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    Jeremy Clarkson has this problem. I believe James May gave a top gear, top tip:

    When Jezza sells, you buy
    When Jezza buys, you sell

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  20. MikeZ32

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    been a while, overdue for an update

    - new brakes all round, DBA rotors / Endless pads front and RDA rotors / Project Mu pads rear
    - new coilovers in, Blitz ZZR which are 10KG front and 8KG rear. Feels quite compliant despite the stiff spring rating.
    - fresh rear seats replacing the torn ones
    - cleaned up the interior as much as I could
    - fixed front lip
    - Laile beatrush front strut brace with brake master stopper
    - RPF1 18x9 235 fronts and 18x10 265 rears on AD08Rs
    - cleaned up the engine bay and re-did some of the water lines, vacuum lines (heaps of boost leaks), wires
    - battery relocated to boot
    - installed transmission brace which Ausrotary recommended when upping the power
    - screamer pipe welded up (for now just to pass pits)

    Some pics of the progress, edging closer to my my original vision for the car

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    Still a big to do list which I'll aim to do after it passes roadworthy:
    - Bride Japan VIOS III Type Rs fixed backs
    - Garage Kagotani rear diffuser and FEED style side steps
    - change out the exhaust for a 4" dump into 3.5" catback system instead of the current 3 into 2.5 which is too small
    - drive another 700kms before a proper tune to establish a good baseline (still on run in tune)
    - upgrade fuel system: needs a bigger fuel pump and aftermarket secondary fuel rail with Bosch 2000cc injectors + tune.
     

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