Warming engine up to prevent wear - myth or fact?

Discussion in 'Technical' started by SuperZ, May 19, 2014.

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Is there any truth to warming the VG30DETT and reducing wear before driving off?

  1. Its crap - you can drive off straight away with no excessive wear

    9 vote(s)
    18.4%
  2. I should care and do it - but I never have time!

    1 vote(s)
    2.0%
  3. Its true - I briefly warm my car up before driving it away

    30 vote(s)
    61.2%
  4. Its true - I fully warm my car up before driving it away

    6 vote(s)
    12.2%
  5. I don't care either way

    3 vote(s)
    6.1%
  1. waynoz

    waynoz New Member

    I always thought this was more due to allowing the oil to make its way up the cylinder bore.

    nissan i'm told have always built their engines so that on startup, oil is injected up into the cylinder bores to prevent friction on startup.

    maybe someone can elaborate on this if it's correct?
     
  2. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

    The NA's have oil nozzles aiming up onto the underside of the pistons. Thats a cooling strategy. Interestingly, the turbo engines dont have them.
    Rods often have a small bleed hole allowing oil to sling up. I dont know with the VG's.
    Enough oil slings off the crankpins to adequately lubricate the bores below the rings.

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  3. Shane001

    Shane001 Well-Known Member

    I thought the TT's had hollow pistons, with the squirters angled to direct oil into the underside of the piston?

    But yeah as Tas said this is for cooling.
     
  4. SuperZ

    SuperZ Resident Z lunatic

    Actually the latest research says it all has to with the expansion of the valves and is critical for multivalve engines

    Also the corrosive nature of the gases at start up

    But there is just so much shit to wade through on this particular subject its not funny - that's why I posted this here!
     
  5. mholt

    mholt Member

    my brother had a similar situation, so to entertain( shit the neighbour ) right off he'd come down the street at full noise, hit the auto door button, do a big handbrakey into the driveway, like blues brothers and the neighbour stopped ringing the EPA
     
  6. Chad_

    Chad_ Well-Known Member

    few points

    - ever wondered why taxi's last so long :)

    - even if you let the car sit idling to warm up the engine, your gearbox, diff etc is still cold

    - start engine , let oil circulate 30sec - 1min

    - start driving vehicle normally/slowly till operating temps are reached

    - :br:
     
  7. Red-Z

    Red-Z Red-Z

    Years ago this was probably true but with modern oils and engines it should be Ok to start and drive straight away, but I wouldn't rev hard or let the engine labour until it's warmed up properly.
    I heard back in the 60's that Petters tested two (admittedly diesel) engines, one started and left to idle only and the other started and raced to max revs straight away and held there. The Idling engine seized first. So I heard Not sure what that proves but I don't think idling for an extended time while cold is doing much good.
     

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