Want More boost? Give your VG30DETT Water Injection

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  1. The Devils Z

    The Devils Z New Member

    All ?

    [..All prices are US dollars ... shipping to Australia is $75 for 3-5 day delivery and $35 for 4-6 week delivery from the USA]

    on the average stock Z, approx 3 more PSI on pump gas which is about 30rwhp can be had with Water Injection. As you can see by reviewing the A/F ratio graphs, with the usage of a methanol mix 25% or more, one can actually produce more rwhp safer !!!

    red line = 1.4 bar pump gas ~ 94 octane ( no detonation )
    blue line = 1.65 bar pump gas w/ WI ~ 94 octane ( no detonation )

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    If you live in very hot climates or have lower than 93 octane at the pump, IMHO - WI is a "no brainer" for extra buffer ( same boost levels ) or more / higher PSI at the same or safer A/F ratio levels

    I have sourced together 3 different kits based on your individual needs / setup :

    Option 1 ~ Basic Water Injection Kit with dual nozzle upgrade
    Stage 1
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    Water/methanol injection system with everything needed to start making big HP! Includes: 150 psi high volume pump, adjustable boost pressure switch, 2-qt. Reservoir,dual nozzle upgrade , two nozzles sized to your RWHP and boost levels, Bosch relay, all the electrical parts, fittings, tubing etc. to install - a complete kit made with quality, proven components.


    $ 310 Shipped !


    Option 2 ? Variable ~ option 1 with Variable Controller add on
    Stage 2 with Variable Controller

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    Includes Stage-1 plus:

    Variable Controller that varies the quantity injected vs. boost. This allows maximum power at all RPM/boost levels as just the right amount is injected at all times. Features include adjustments for onset boost level and full quantity boost level.

    Note: The variable controller replaces the boost pressure switch and relay included in the stage-1 kit.

    $400 shipped !

    Option 3 - ( Variable ) ~ with Safe Injection and 220 PSI pump add on
    Stage 2 with Safe Injection module

    this is the ultimate in water injection setups !

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    I highly recommend this module. You can wire this into a boost controller and it can be set to limit your boost ( cut the power ) when activated. Can help you save your engine if you have tuned to a higher boost setting with the water injection spraying.

    For years, many have wanted to use water/methanol injection but have not taken advantage of the power increases do to safety concerns. Designed as an ad-on to the Boost Cooler? water/methanol injection system, Safe Injection? provides for a safe tune in those instances where no injection is present and an aggressive tune is utilized.? This system reduces boost or timing anytime injection quantity goes below a set point (e.g. if reservoir level goes too low) making the tune instantly conservative for the ultimate in safe water/methanol injection.


    The larger 220psi pump upgrade. ( larger pump will allow for more versatility in tuning and you get a larger flow range ) and the safe injection will assist in notification when the water injection fluid is low.

    $500 shipped !! *** biggest savings ! over $100 on MSRP ***



    Please inquire about other accessories from
    Snow Performance

    Three different nozzle sizes based on power application / turbo size

    General guideline


    stock ~ 175 ml
    > stock and < 450RWHP - 375 ml
    > 450 rwhp - 675 ml

    175ml/min nozzle @ 100psi=200ml/min @ 200psi=240ml/min
    375ml/min nozzle @ 100psi=430ml/min @ 200psi=520ml/min
    625ml/minnozzle @ 100psi=720ml/min @ 200psi=865ml/min


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    Safe Injection

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    Description:

    For years, many have wanted to use water/methanol injection but have not taken advantage of the power increases do to safety concerns. Designed as an ad-on to the Boost Cooler? water/methanol injection system, Safe Injection? provides for a safe tune in those instances where no injection is present and an aggressive tune is utilized.? This system reduces boost or timing anytime injection quantity goes below a set point (e.g. if reservoir level goes too low) making the tune instantly conservative for the ultimate in safe water/methanol injection.

    Operation
    The SI-10 and SI-05 monitor the flow of Water/Methanol in the system. When flow drops below 0.10 Gallons per Minute (GPM), equal to 378 ml/min,( 0.05 GPM or175ml/min on the SI-05) the fault trigger will go to a high state of 12 volts. In addition to the supplied red LED, this trigger can be used to signal the following:
    1. an ignition/timing controller such as an MSD timing computer if using an MSD ignition
    2. aftermarket engine computer
    3. a solenoid such that boost is reduced in a wastegated turbo set-up. ( $39.95 list. See below.)
    4. a solenoid to evacuate boost on a supercharged set-up.
    The trigger signal can deliver up to 1.5 amps to drive a solenoid or relay.



    Variable controller ~ comes with the stage 2 kit !!

    Description:

    The Electronic Variable Controller from Snow Performance represents the latest technology in Water/Methanol system control. The controller is designed to increase injection pressure over a user adjustable range and quickly shut off when boost pressure drops to prevent misfire. No special MAP or MAF is required. The controller has a .2 to 5 volt output signal (denotes 2.9 to 36.3 manifold boost psi) that can be used for an input to other applications. The small rugged design and easy setup makes the EVC the logical choice for automotive/offroad enthusiast.

    Operation:
    An external hose barb is provided to connect the controller to manifold pressure. The user then sets two dials that are located under the lid of the controller. The first dial tells the controller what pressure to turn on and off. The second dial tells the controller the pressure where maximum injection is required. Once the two dials are set, the controller will linearly increase/decrease the injection pressure over the set range. Start pressure is adjustable from .5 to 8psi. The Full pressure is adjustable from 2 to 25psi. Note that if the Full Psi dial is set below the Start Psi setting, full injection pressure will occur once the Start boost psi is reached


    Reverse Flow Check Valve

    Description:

    This valve mounted between the reservoir and the pump inlet is used to keep boost from reverting back through the reservoir during the pre-injection state. Recommended in high boost (over 15psig) applications.


    Fluid Level Switch Upgrade

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    Description:

    Indicates low fluid level to insure you don't run out. Includes an upgraded reservoir with level switch, Red LED, and fittings necessary to install.

    Solenoid Upgrade

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    Description:

    For use when the nozzle is mounted after the throttle plate (to keep from siphoning at idle) or if the nozzle must be mounted lower than the reservoir (to keep from gravity feeding).


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    Snow Performance Sales Pitch :

    " 1) Engineering - each system has been designed and tested by engineers to ensure reliability and robustness. The Boost Cooler will do what it is designed to do for a very long time

    2) Digital Variable Controllers for different applications - Not just boost actuated, we have specially designed controllers for each vehicle / application to ensure maximum power

    3) High Pressure/ High Volume Pumps - Our pumps are specially designed for Snow Performance to deliver higher pressures and reliability. Each pump is pre-tested and designed to work with methanol.

    4) Unsurpassed Atomization - Along with higher pressures, our nozzles are specially designed to spin the fluid supersonically before being forced through a venturi shaped oriface for the ultimate in atomization.

    5) Trained technical and tuning advice - trained, knowledgeable technicians are always available to help.

    6) Warranty - Life time warranty available. Snow backs it's systems with industry leading warranties.

    7) Customer Service - Expert technical advice is available anytime during business hours. We have the experience to answer installation and tuning questions.

    8) Safety - Our new safe injection is the ultimate in safety for even the most aggressively tuned applications. This ensures worry-free power in even the most demanding racing applications as well as full power on the street.

    With the proper tuning, expect about 10-20% improvement in power. Can be used in Nitros applications. Can be used in MAP and MAF applications.

    The Safe Injection Module can be used to trigger a warning lamp, bleed off boost pressure ( electronic boost controller or manual boost controller),or switch EMS maps."


    email = info@thedevilsz.com ( faster response ) ..
     
  2. WhiteNight

    WhiteNight Littering and...

    Might be a silly question, is there any advantage on NA engines?

    I know that the turbine increases air temperature and therfore reduces combustion efficiency, therefore the need for intercoolers to cool the air so you can squeeze more air in.. more psi and the like.

    So is there any benefit on an NA?
     
  3. Claymen

    Claymen Active Member

    Bigger Nozzles

    Any chance on getting just bigger nozzles?

    I got the large kit in a previous buy prior to my big build. Once I get upgraded turbo's i'll probably need the bigger nozzle, what can you do for just a set of those shipped?
     
  4. Kalus

    Kalus Finally dug myself out

    ok, so what's the timing on this????

    Is it for a limited time?

    I haven't got the time to be doing too much research into this at the moment, but based on the following details, what setup would you suggest (including any optional components)??

    500RWHP
    20+ psi boost
    HKS EVC boost controller
    would want to mount the reservoir at the rear

    Cheers
    Kyne
     
  5. WazTTed

    WazTTed Grease Monkey

    i assume you use the stock window washer bottle 2 hold the water.. how long would this last on say a track racing.. with moderate boosting and high revs
     
  6. Zexual

    Zexual Zed Head

    yep there is advantages for using it on NA.. i started a thread about a week ago on it.. with the water/ alcho injection is helps to prevent detonation so u can run some insane levels of timing i hope to be doing it within 2 months.. i dont think it has been done on a NA in australia before so im the first:D ill keep you posted on my results
     
  7. Claymen

    Claymen Active Member

    My kit came with a bottle

    I intended to move my battery to the boot and mount the bottle in its place. I was also going to put the pump there and a lockable weatherproof box with the ECU in there.
     
  8. Zexual

    Zexual Zed Head


    hahah same i was going to relocate the battery to the boot and run the tank in the bay to keep the distance for runing the lines as short as possible:)
     

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