Uas Gear

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by larlok, Dec 27, 2010.

  1. larlok

    larlok Member

    Now i Know there are a few UAS reps on here so im not out to piss anybody off,

    But i am wanting to get some suspension components, and UAS seem to have most of the bits i want.

    My question is are the UAS branded stuff up for the punishment of track days and daily driving,
    Any one here running this gear?

    Joe
     
  2. Mitch

    Mitch Has one gear: GO

    Many pros and cons Joe:

    Pros
    • UAS has a wide selection of components and all available for delivery quickly
    • UAS undertakes a lot of R&D to create new parts (such as upper camber arms- the twisty ones)
    • Parts are based on OEM design, and use quality components to provide better-than-stock characteristics
    Cons
    • UAS design often closely mimics other market leaders' designs (midori camber arms for example) but is in no way only limited to UAS (R&D is often poached by other manufacturers)
    • Prices are higher than comparable products from other suppliers, but competitive based on historical exchange rate. Quality is supposed to be higher than 'fling-woo' brand chinese products, but I'm unsure if this has ever been quantified.
    • UAS products (like all brands of aftermarket suspension products) are for 'race use only'... so no implied warranty for road use and safety.

    While there is alternatives to UAS products out there, UAS has a good product offering and is a local company. Weigh up the pros and cons yourself to see if you are happy.
    Final word is that all products are for off road usse only, and failures do occur. While OEM has its drawbacks, they are reliable , whereas race products assume inspection after each race meet to check for defects.
     
  3. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    That deserves a thanks!

    Good summary, and regardless of the brand/supplier you use you should always inspect very regularly and be prepared to replace rosejoints and whole arms.
     
  4. larlok

    larlok Member

    yes i do agree, i was more after any catastrophic failure stories or common problems associated or "ive been running this for so long with no problems" stories, with the parts.
     
  5. rollin

    rollin First 9

    there are failure stories with any aftermarket suspension stuff, they are not designed for road use.
     
  6. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    what particular parts are you looking at?
     
  7. revhead

    revhead New Member

    i thought using performance race bits on the road would be better then standard,as in race cond the car suffers more g forces and loads ,,and daily driving would,nt bother the performance stuff
     
  8. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    Not many huge potholes on the race track ;)

    I'm tempted to go back to mainly stock parts with eccentric bolts. Noisy rosejoints annoy me. I'll try dustboots first though.
     
  9. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    I dont find the rose joints noisy at all? :confused:
     
  10. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    After a few months and a few times driving in the rain they get all squeeky :(
     
  11. rollin

    rollin First 9

    yeah exactly. they get water and sand in them, go squeaky and then get sloppy.

    how many people have that front end clunk with rose joint tension rods.
     
  12. rollin

    rollin First 9

    OEM suspension and brake components are designed for all manner of roads, and in most cases designed in a fasion that if a bush fails completely the arm will still be attached to the car, they have minimal welds and are designed to take bumps and vibration for a long time.


    Solid bushes allow more shock and vibration to transfer through a suspension arm and usually develops a crack around one of the welds
     
  13. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

    I have been using UAS(and other manufacturers)suspension offerings for almost 9 years. During that time I have NEVER experienced noisy or badly worn rose-joints. I have suffered several failures of Front Upper Control Arms(welds failing, bending out of alignment)but not once have there been any problems pertaining to bearing wear or failure.
    On one occasion I had a Rear Upper Control Arm(not UAS)suffer a catastrophic breakage of the circular arm tubing(due, I believe, to crystallization of the steel during welding).

    There are great improvements in handling to be had from several aftermarket components, unfortunately there are also many unexpected pitfalls that may occur as well.

    Constant inspection and servicing of these components is a definite requisite if you want to enjoy the added improvements in handling.

    Nothing is free, accept advice, and as in most things, is only worth the price you pay for it.:zlove:
     
  14. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    What sort of k's are we talking?

    Do you keep them well greased with dust boots?
     
  15. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

    Well in excess of 100K.

    Yes(greased and dust-boots).
     
  16. ross

    ross Member

    It's a $1000's a year(UAS) v's $10,000,000(NISSAN) a year budget that may give you well tested product.

    Track v's Daily, it's a long straw, from once a year to weekly,
    Nissan spent quite a lot on the Z32 for normal use, ( IMO might include track days every now and then )

    Most track stuff requires a shorter service time, ( normally after each track run ),
    where as stock parts outlast the normal 10,000 km service intervals

    ross
     
  17. Mitch

    Mitch Has one gear: GO

    On a similar note, If nissan has to choose between reliability or performance, reliability will win every time. Warranty claims have the ability tro eat massive holes in budgets / reputation / public interest groups (eg for safety concerns) and government regulation. In short, built to last over built to perform.

    Toyota with their prius know first hand the impact of poor components, recalls and regulation with their recent problems.
     
  18. larlok

    larlok Member

    looking at the front and rear lower control arms
     
  19. beaver

    beaver southern zeds

    I've binned

    two sets of rear arms, not from uas, because they were badly wielded used low grade thin gauge tube,and the rose mount assemblies themselves looked flimsy/rubbish. I went back to stock on the rear end, and even though the concentric set up is limited, there is still a bit of adjustment +-.
     
  20. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC


    thats the last thing you should do ..
    .. worry about coilovers ,adjustable upper arms,bushes ,etc
     

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