Opinions on which kit conversion design looks better

There are plenty of people who make low tech solution body kits which are hand laid in moulds to meet the demand as orders 'trickle in'

The CNC solution is better suited to small high precision components.
eg. Updated instrument knobs, updated steering wheel fascia, small interior plastics.
If I were doing this, I would factor in the costs for world wide shipping and that would limit the physical size of anything I would cut.
The largest interior piece I would cut would be
- A pillar (designed with some kind of useful built-in feature)
- B pillar (designed with some kind of useful built-in feature)
- dash instrument cover (designed with additional gauge pods)
- extension to dash instrument cover (designed to accommodate iPhone/ GPS/mini computer screen, etc)
- replacement armrest lid which incorporates cup holders, might be useful.

There are so many parts that can be cut with CNC that would be high profit.

Start small, build a rep for being smart. Leave the big exterior body kits to the hand laid fibre glass/carbon fibre boys.

 

I read your posts on your new CNC machine. Your plan is to run a machine built into your spare room, venting dust out a window. It will be hooked up to a computer, with cameras watching it, and you will obviously use various materials such as fibreglass and resin in your house as well, yes?

Epic lulz will be had when i call the canadian police and tell them your running a clandestine meth lab. Cant wait for them to bust your door down and arrest you for being a tool.

 

Only a fool would use fiberglass and resin inside an apartment. Also any shredded foam fumes exiting my bathroom vent should compliment the toilet odor into a better smelling experience for anyone caught in the line of fart.

There's not much originality with more expensive cars, so it should appeal to some segments of car buyers.

 

YOUR CNC solution is better suited to small high precision components.
eg. Updated instrument knobs, updated steering wheel fascia, small interior plastics.
Car companies use CNC machines to cut clay models all the time

PS: I know that Car companies use CNC to do a rough cut of the blocked upclay & you are not a car company.

There are so many parts that can be cut with CNC that would be high profit.
One would have to sell lots of these little parts to make any good cash and I doubt there would be enough Zed owners interested, but a full size cabin, in sections, will transform and modernize the interior like a new car which would be worth paying lots of money for.

You have a CNC machine FFS, CAD your ideas, post your pics on eBAY, see if there is any interest.
Then just turn your thing ON when you get an order.
Start small, build a rep for being smart.

 

DISCLAMIOR *** to the over-zealous moderator consistently monitoring my posts to infract me * *** THIS IS MY OPINION ON THE TOPIC

To be honest, smaller products, like copies of hard to get items would be better. more potential with a bulk buy.

THis would get your name out there and the confidence to start bigger like kits.

 

Buy a zed... say $4,000 on a good day
Fab whole fibreglass front end $1,000 in materials
New headlights $600 for the set I'll incorporate the stock ones.
respray of the whole car $5,000 (you'll need to if you want to be semi-rebirthing these cars, not going to have half stock paint half new paint
Na, $300? vinyl should be sufficient.


No its going to cost you more than $300 of vinyl... to fully wrap a full car is $4k+.. so front end of the car is going to be at least $1500 to get it done pro.. and dont pretend like you are going to do it yourself, you couldnt wipe your own ass if your head wasnt already stuck up there.

then you are selling cars half 25yr old paint, half vinyl... retarded much?

and now you are using stock lights so you are just going to cover half the light? see above comment on your mental state

So now we are on $10,600 per stock car with the kit in parts alone...
We're at $5500.... no... try again.. at a min you are looking at 7200+


You'd want to lower it so even cheap lowered springs $400
Set of basic rims to make it look the part $1,000 on the very low end
Then the big killer... time to do all this work in labour.... at least! 2 weeks solid work per car, say 100 hours.. $60/hr which again is bottom end there's another $6,000

Stock height Zeds still look respectable and so do the stock rims. The buyer should customize springs and wheels to his own preference.
Also replacing panels and bolting on adapters to relocate the headlights will be a two hour job if I include an assembly video... add another hour for vinyl, a full conversion should be done in three hours.
With foreign contractees, I would like them to replicate the panels to cut shipping cost and I'd collect a fixed royalty on each kit sold, say $200-300+.


you think you can do the full conversion fitting perfectly by a few untrained mexi****s in your back yard in 3 hours?
you clearly havent done much work on a zed before... but even then if you have bulk adaptors etc... you need to add the cost of said bits to the list so there is another few 100 -1k.... faggot

stock height is not rezpecttable... stock rims are not rezpecttable if you are trying to sell cars modded up like this..




For me to sell it locally a finished car should cost under $6000 and I'd sell it for $8000-$10000 depending on the demand.


like i said... sell 3 cars kitted and done to happy customers and i am willing to fly myself over there, skype it to the forum and eat my own freshly laid shit.

 

Please Sell 3 Kits . Better Go Buy Some Popcorn Just In Case :rofl:

 

Having tried designing by hand and using fiberglass before, it already gives me confidence knowing the CNC'ed foam body should look perfect. Once I complete a kit, I can park it on busy streets to show the product to potential customers right away. No need to build a reputation and wait for orders to come in.

 

Huh ?

Do you expect 90% of the people on a "busy street" like to modify cars or are interested in your product? Please think again....

Again this isn't logical. Park on street, show off design? and get orders to come in? This ain't fairy land. The states and Canada can't afford to splurge money on unnecessary items like this in this economic climate.

I think you need another approach.

 

its ok.. he is going to fit a custom fibreglass shell to a zed and cover in vinyl perfectly in 3 hours by using mexicans...

its not like fibreglass never fits perfectly every time or isnt perfect straight out of the mould... nor is it very hard to use cheap ebay vinyl to cover complex curves and angles such as a front bar.

And it surely isnt not a challenge to get cheap china ebay vinyl that mates perfectly to the colour code of the car without any difference

I think he is spot on and ill get that cup and plane ticket ready.

 

There is so much structural work that you will only discover when you actually test fit your fibreglass reinforced panels to the car.
I see that you have lengthened the bonnet, so that means you will have to reposition the safety latch. Not that difficult to weld on an extension tongue, but it is one more fiddly thing that has to be done.
I see you are covering half the large reflector. You may as well remove that light and adapt a turn indicator because that is all the partially exposed light is good for.
You will need to put vents in the bonnet to make sure the additional air that gets pushed in under the headlight overlap area, doesn't lift the entire body kit off the car.
You will need to provide HID lights and incorporate driving lights to replace the lights you have covered up.

 

Also, please remember that Assrash isn't working and doesn't have a life. Which always makes it easy to fund these things.

 

Toasting in epic bread.

Arash, why dont you come at it from a different angle and actaully have a go at listening to the people on here? The only experience i have had painting and fibreglassing is in the backyard, with NO research into technique and im already infinitely more qualified than you. You keep forgetting that even if you POS meth lab...er cnc maching DOES cut well you still have to glass it yourself! Vaccu-form abs isnt safe for road use, itll melt on a hot day....and if you dont know the desgn rules on fibreglass you should probably look it up.

At the end of the day you can say your gonna do it, and you MIGHT be able to make a machine that has a small chance of maybe considering thinking about cutting within a 5mm tolerance, but when it comes to actually glassing it, you need to have experience, with both the materials and actually fitting the parts to the car. Get foam, carve it and glass it. Quicker, cheaper, easier and far less ridiculous.

 

I'll hire promoters!

Ripped from VWVortex Chinese lambo thread

Such a unique car should attract people who like its looks... I'll put some pamphlets on it and hope it will sell itself. Regarding the economic climate... people are still irresponsible to buy big ticket items like cars and go into deeper debt.

Glassing it could create bubbles on the surface and need additional work but the plastic will form over perfectly, have a nice surface, and have a bit of flex in minor accidents.


Im not so sure about making squared and slit headlights anymore, I may just do this one but with a better bumper to vent the middle opening.
I also solved the kit hood fitting over the stock one with slim fenders to be uniform with the rest of the body.

 

Now your just trolling everyone.

Im sorry, if i saw that car on the street, I would proberly throw up in my mouth.

Atleast have some dignity and take off the ferrari badge. its an insult to the zeds name.

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Ferrari badges give credit to the original design.

My building plans.

 

The front does not suit the rear. Looks lik 2 cars chopped up and welded together.

:vomit:

 

This theme of design was my other choice, but the Italia looking one looks aggressive.


My next plan is to test the machine by carving a small car, and before I carve the Zed kit, Im going to run a design poll on the 4Chan forums to reassure myself the aggressive one will have more appeal. I like both.

 

Why 4Chan? I thought that was a punch of pre-pube kids?

your best bet is to find a different target audience, people that hide behind a computer all day wont be interested in leaving the house.

 

4Chan has an almost anonymous member feedback system and the young generation of car enthusiasts there should be more used to a variety of modern car designs with all the video games they play.

This is the kit overlapping the stock parts.