Idler stud support

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by Anti, Jan 11, 2016.

  1. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

    Found this on Facebook and thought it was pretty sweet. Don't think it's really necessary if you replace the stud when you should but it's a cool safety loop. I'd probably buy one if they were cheap.

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    -A
     
  2. Fists

    Fists Well-Known Member

    You're still running covers right? Just glue a metal plate to the inside of the cover there so it doesnt get as far.
     
  3. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

    Yeah I am, this seems to have a whole lot more potential than that though.
     
  4. WazTTed

    WazTTed Grease Monkey

    Looks nice but doubt it would do anything considering it's connected to the top m6 bolts on the coolant pipes !!
     
  5. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

    It will be a cold day in Hell, before that stud will bend(or shear off)but if/when it does, I seriously doubt that that gadget will do anything worthwhile to contain the Pulley(or the Belt).
    If there is enough force to effect the pulley shaft, there will be way more than enough to snap the m6 bolts holding the bracket.:rolleyes2::eek:
     
  6. mungyz

    mungyz Well-Known Member

    Anyone in Aussie had one of these studs break?

    I'm yet to see or hear of one in NZ & we have some REALLY high mileage old pigs over here.
    just wondering if it's an installation issue more than a fatigue/old age thing.
     
  7. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

    pretty inept understanding dude

    the bracket supports the stud in such a way that the pulley no longer has leverage on one end of it. that's what makes all the difference
     
  8. kickerzx

    kickerzx Member

    Oooh. I notice he fabbed a way so that he can get both his timingcovers of without opening the coolant system. Thats convenient.
     
  9. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    I know of 2. Can't comment on the cause.
     
  10. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

    What part of "it is hardly ever likely to happen" do you NOT understand?
    Also,

    A: What amount of Force is required to bend/snap that stud?

    B: How does the answer to "A" compare to the force required to snap the M6 bolts mounting the bracket?

    If you spent more time analyzing those two questions(rather than being a smart-ass)you might salvage some credibility.......:rolleyes2::br:
     
  11. stumagoo

    stumagoo Active Member

    I have. I now have a high tensile bolt in there,

    Apparently it can occur if the nut is overtorqued on the shaft. I dont know for sure but I am reasonably confident with my source and prepared to accept fault if that was the case. but yes definately that stud can break.
     
  12. Jinxed

    Jinxed Moderator

    I was also of the opinion that you would have to be pretty unlucky / stupid to bend or break that stud.

    BUT. recent history has shown me that it is not only possible, but it only takes a small error for it to happen. and it tends to be engine destroying when it goes.

    The 2 WA zeds that i have seen with this broken stud suffered extensive head damage as a result of the failure and the timing belt slipping without the idler there to keep it in place.

    While i dont know if this little bracket will stop the failure (it might), it wont be finding a place on any of my cars because imho, its ugly as sin and would likely remove modding the cam covers etc.
     
  13. Fists

    Fists Well-Known Member

    My current engine appears to have lost that stud in a previous life, no comment on the abilities of the mechanic that put it together.
     

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