anyone in vic had to have a 'viv' test done by vicroads?

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by ashhh, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. ashhh

    ashhh Member

    if so is it hard to pass? and do they go over the whole car or what?
    worrying with how strict there going to be with my zed
    thanks.
     
  2. SedatZX

    SedatZX Tyranus

    they are VERY STRICT! everything needs to be perfect.. my mate had alot of problems with his clubby when he went through "viv"
     
  3. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    You DONT want to be doing this. Its a minefield.

    It has to be looked at by an external engineer at a cost of $800 a time pass or fail. They go over the car with a fine tooth comb. Including a tape measure to make sure the chassis is in spec (and many arnt from factory new)

    All Vicroads do for a VIV is check engine and chassis numbers to make sure the car isnt rebirthed.

    This is why I would never buy a car that has been written off and been placed on the repairable write off cars list.

    It can be VERY expensive if the repairer has done a dodgy or less than perfect repair job.
     
  4. JEDI-77

    JEDI-77 Jedi Master

    why??

    How come you have to have a Viv test done?

     
  5. ashhh

    ashhh Member

    shiiit. this isnt sounding good.
    brought another zed off the forums and got it sent over from perth.
    when it was halfway over here rang up vicroads to get a unregistered vehicle permit, then the lady on the phone told me the car had been previously written off and i needed to get a viv aswell :/
     
  6. Stef

    Stef Active Member

    If the seller did not tell you it was a writeoff, I would send it back and demand my money back. You should have checked too of course.
     
  7. ashhh

    ashhh Member

    well the guy is being really good about it and giving me abit of money back to help get it fixed. but yeah i accept the fact i should of checked it out myself first. be abit hard to send it all the way back to the other side of australia :(
    is there anything i should be specifically worried about? i mean im getting all the problems from the writeoff fixed properly, but anything else?
     
  8. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    Find out why it was written off. If it was submerged by water it may not be quite as big an issue rpoviding it was fresh water not salt.

    If it was pranged then you may well have a terrible problem depending on how it was repaired.

    You should be worried. This could really blow up in your face.

    I bought a pranged car and didnt realize the potential problem when i did it. Luckily the guy I bought it off had negotiated with the insurance company NOT to place it on the register and I was OK.
     
  9. ashhh

    ashhh Member

    it had a front end crash on the drivers side. had passenger side gaurd replaced and front bumper replaced.. apparently the damage wasnt too bad but there is a slight buckle and a tiny amount of rust on the front support rail along where the radiator goes. however there is a fair amount of rust on the passenger side chassi from the battery tray down and all the way along to the front support where the slight buckle is. been working with bryan (bryteck) to work it all out and figured out how to fix these problems but just wondering to what extent they check the car over and the risk of failing the test :( :bash:
     
  10. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    They will measure all the chassis rails for straightness and measure cross the car from the fire wall to each front corner. BAsically if you have a look at the back of the manual there are measurements from point to point which you can check to see how straight the front is. If its significantly out they will reject it. Then bye bye $800 each time they check it.

    Unfortunately once it is on the written off vehicles register it can never be removed. You also have to disclose it is a repaired write off to anyone who buys it. Or they can pull themselves out of the contract to buy. IMO a car that has been added on that list is worth less than half a car that is NOT on it.

    Hope you didnt pay too much because you will most prob NEVER recoup anywhere near that again. If I am looking at a car its the first thing I check.
     
  11. bRACKET

    bRACKET Do Right Dean

    Sorry for the new-guy question, but how do you check if a cars been a repairable writeoff??
     
  12. JEDI-77

    JEDI-77 Jedi Master

    go to vicroads website...

    follow the links about buying a car and doing a history check. Type in the rego number or chassis number and you'll have your answer. You can also have a more comprehensive test, but that costs you some money.

     
  13. Peter Black

    Peter Black Active Member

    You can pay a few bucks to VicRoads or whatever state body is appropriate for a report on the vehicle I think.
     
  14. ashhh

    ashhh Member

  15. BADZX

    BADZX Grumpy old fart

  16. BADZX

    BADZX Grumpy old fart

    ome 'interesting' $$$$$ being mentioned here.....

    the facts are....

    VIV Inspection fee comprising of 2 payments.....

    Deposit (payable at time of booking)$127.20

    Balance (payable at time of inspection)$356.80

    TOTAL = $484




    Additional charges that 'may' apply

    VIV re - inspection fee $87.50

    VIV inspection cancellation fee $127.20

    VIV booking transfer fee $8.10

    taken from:
    http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home...s/Fees/VehicleIdentityValidation(VIV)Fees.htm
     
  17. BADZX

    BADZX Grumpy old fart

    From Vicroads .... what is a VIV .....


    Why you need a Vehicle Identity Validation (VIV) inspection
    A vehicle entered on the WOVR as a repairable write-off cannot be re-registered nor have its registration maintained unless a current Vehicle Identity Validation (VIV) certificate is submitted to VicRoads. Exemptions may apply for vehicles damaged in the 6 March 2010 hail storm.

    VicRoads may accept an interstate written-off vehicle inspection, however it reserves the right to require a vehicle entered on the WOVR (including specific interstate vehicles classified as inspected write-offs) to undergo the VIV inspection to ensure that the vehicle is correctly identified and repaired appropriately. To find out whether a vehicle is required to undergo the VIV inspection, please contact VicRoads on 13 11 71.


    When you would need a VIV inspection
    You will need to make an appointment for a VIV inspection and obtain a VIV certificate for the vehicle if the following applies:

    The vehicle is entered on the WOVR as a repairable write-off and you are seeking to maintain the registration, or seeking re-registration
    The vehicle is being transferred from interstate and VicRoads has informed you that you are required to obtain a VIV certificate prior to registration in Victoria
    A vehicle recorded as a statutory write-off pre 2002 that was registered in Victoria prior to 1st May 2002 and has its Victorian registration cancelled and applies for re-registration
    VIV certificate
    A VIV certificate is a document issued by a VicRoads VIV inspector after inspection of the vehicle. It certifies that the identity of a repairable write-off:

    is that of the previously damaged vehicle and not that of a re-birthed stolen vehicle, and
    the vehicle has been repaired to the appropriate standard.

    Making a booking for a VIV inspection
    Please ensure that the vehicle is in a roadworthy and ready-to-register condition prior to making a VIV inspection booking.

    To make an appointment for a VIV inspection, you must make an appointment and take your vehicle to the appointed VicRoads VIV inspection centre. Inspections will only be conducted on vehicles that are booked through the VicRoads VIV Booking Service.

    Bookings must be made at least seven to ten (7?10) days in advance and can be made online or by telephoning VicRoads VIV Booking Service on 13 28 43 (Monday to Friday, 8:30 am to 4:45 pm).



    Important: When making your appointment, you will be allocated a VIV inspection centre in your area. You cannot specify nor have the option to choose which VIV inspection centre you wish to attend. Due to unprecedented demand, appointment availability for a VIV inspection can be delayed up to ten to fifteen (10-15) days.



    What do I need when making an appointment for a VIV inspection?
    You must have the following information when making an appointment:

    your drivers licence number and name
    the vehicle?s Vehicle Identification Number (VIN), make, model, colour and registration number (if known) and home address.
    When making a VIV booking, $127.20 must be paid to secure the booking timeslot. Only payments by credit card (Visa / MasterCard) will be accepted. The balance of $356.80 must be paid on the day of inspection before the inspection starts, by cash or credit card. If you do not present the vehicle for inspection at the allocated time and date, you will forfeit the booking fee. The total VIV inspection fee is $484.00.

    A VIV booking confirmation sheet will be faxed, posted or emailed to you informing you of all the requirements and conditions of the inspection. The booking service will allocate an inspection centre and advise you in writing where and when to take the vehicle. A receipt for the booking fee will also be issued to you at this time.

    An existing booking may also be transferred to another date. Provided that 5 clear business days notice is given, you may contact the VIV Booking Service on 13 28 43 and pay a transfer fee of $8.10 by credit card (Visa / MasterCard) to transfer the date of the VIV inspection. You cannot change the allocated VIV inspector.


    Costs

    Transaction

    Fee

    VIV inspection fee comprising:

    Deposit (payable at time of booking)
    Balance (payable at time of inspection) $484.00

    $127.20
    $356.80
    VIV re-inspection fee $87.50
    VIV inspection cancellation fee $127.20
    VIV booking transfer fee $8.10


    Additional inspection charges may apply if the vehicle is:

    not in a roadworthy condition or
    not in a ready to register state or
    if it requires additional repairs
    If the vehicle has not been adequately repaired, the inspector may also request you obtain vehicle measurements and or a structural repair report ? this requires a diary of repairs. If this process is completed within ten (10) working days, a re-inspection fee will apply. If greater than ten (10) working days, the full VIV booking inspection fee will be applied.



    On the day of inspection
    Items to present at the VIV inspection
    The vehicle must be in a roadworthy and a ready-to-register condition and not require additional repairs.
    The following are the minimum number of documents that you will need to provide on the day of the inspection (subject to amendment from time to time):

    if the vehicle is unregistered, an unregistered vehicle permit (unless a trade plate is used) or tow truck or trailer details
    your driver licence
    proof of purchase of vehicle such as a tax invoice or receipt (must contain vehicle?s VIN) and a business ABN (if applicable)
    proof of ownership such as a receipt, registration papers or sales contract
    tax invoices and itemised receipts for all repairs conducted as well as for all replacement parts used during repair (receipts must contain business ABN). Receipts for second hand replacement parts (major components) are required to list the VIN of the vehicle they were acquired from
    photos taken prior to and during repairs i.e. crash repair diary which includes photos
    copy of the manufacturers? repair instructions
    For vehicles repaired by the owner, in addition to all of the above:
    - a statutory declaration detailing repairs conducted and the method;

    9. For vehicles purchased already repaired, in addition to the above:
    - documented evidence of repairs with photographs e.g. crash repair diary and details of the repairer;
    - a statutory declaration detailing the place of purchase and contact details of the seller;
    - any information, documents or photos on the history of vehicle

    If photographs of the vehicle prior to repair are not supplied, the VIV inspector may request a customer to obtain photographs from the auction house where the vehicle was purchased. Some auction houses will charge a fee and there will be may be delay in supplying this information. It is the customer?s responsibility to obtain and pay for this information if it is required.

    Copies of the receipts will be retained by the VIV inspector. Receipts for substantial body parts (e.g. chassis rails, front or rear sections) must contain the VIN of the vehicle from which the parts were obtained. A VIV inspector may refuse to accept as evidence of repairs, a receipt provided by a licensed second-hand dealer that fails to reference the vehicle from which the parts were derived.

    After the vehicle is first inspected, the inspector may request that you obtain a structural and/or body measurement report detailing the actual vehicle measurements and a copy of the manufacturer?s specifications for comparison. This could be as a result of current or previous structural damage to the vehicle; poor repair/welding; or crumpled rails/body work.

    If the vehicle has been fresh water immersed or an SRS device (e.g. airbag) has deployed or is faulty, a complete Supplementary Restraint System (SRS) inspection and report (including ECU check) from an authorised dealer will be required before a certificate can be issued. The VIV inspector will provide you with the relevant forms at the time of inspection.

    If a vehicle fails a VIV inspection for identity reasons, it will be referred to the Victoria Police Organised Motor Vehicle Theft Squad for further inspection.

    If you obtain a 'Vehicle Damage and Structural Repair Report' and / or measurement report prior to the VIV inspection, and concerns are raised regarding the repairs, you may be requested to obtain another report from a repairer independent to the repair process.


    How long will the VIV inspection take?
    The vehicle will be required to attend at 8:30am sharp at the VIV inspection centre for a whole day. In some instances the vehicle may be required for a longer period.

    During this time you are not allowed to be present during the inspection process, so you should be prepared to leave the vehicle until the inspection is finished.



    Important: If you are late in presenting the vehicle for inspection you may lose your allocated timeslot and be required to re-book the vehicle for another time. You will also lose the deposit you paid when making the booking and a full booking deposit will apply on your next booking.

    Getting the vehicle to the VIV inspection
    If the vehicle is not registered, the vehicle may be towed by a tow truck or driven to the VIV inspection site. If you wish to drive the vehicle to the inspection site, you will need to obtain an Unregistered Vehicle Permit by calling VicRoads on 13 11 71. Alternatively if you have a trade number plate, you may temporarily affix that to the vehicle. Remember for the safety of others and the driver, the vehicle must be in a roadworthy and a ready-to-register condition before it can be driven on the road.

    Can someone else take the car to the inspection for me?
    If you cannot attend a VIV appointment in person, you must appoint an agent to act on your behalf. The agent must provide a letter of authority from you containing the following:

    the vehicle?s registration number (if known), VIN and engine number,
    the agent?s name and driver licence number.

    The agent will be required to provide evidence of identity when he/she drops off and picks up the vehicle.

    If your vehicle fails a VIV inspection
    Reasons why a vehicle can fail a VIV inspection
    A vehicle can fail a VIV inspection due to:

    irregularities in its identification
    structural deficiencies or inadequately repaired work
    insufficient paperwork provided
    If your vehicle has failed a VIV inspection, you will be asked to fix the deficiencies identified in the inspection report.

    Fixing deficiencies identified in the inspection report
    Deficiencies identified in the inspection report are required to be fixed within ten (10) working days from the date of the report issue. Within this time frame, you are required to obtain necessary reports and documentation and to have any deficiencies rectified. The time only allows you to rectify minor non-compliances and not to undertake major repair work, as the vehicle should have been repaired prior to inspection.

    If the vehicle has not been adequately repaired, the inspector may also request you obtain a VicRoads Vehicle Damage and Structural Repair Report form ? any additional repairs required should be documented in a repair diary.

    Once the deficiencies have been addressed, you will need to book the vehicle for a re-inspection. A VIV re-inspection fee applies.

    If on re-inspection (within the 10 working days), the vehicle is found to not have been repaired correctly, you will have to re-book for a full VIV-inspection after the repair. Full booking and inspection fees apply.



    Important: The VIV inspection is not a means to discover what damage is required to be repaired in order for the vehicle to pass the VIV inspection. If a vehicle is presented in a poor and unrepaired condition, the vehicle will fail the inspection and be required to be rebooked when repairs are finalised.


    Receiving the VIV certificate
    If the vehicle passes the VIV inspection, you will be issued a VIV certificate. Once issued, the VIV certificate will be valid for three (3) months to give you time to register your vehicle. Only a valid and original copy of the VIV certificate will be accepted when registering the vehicle. Photocopies or certified copies will not be accepted.

    If your VIV certificate validity has expired, you are required to re-submit the vehicle for a full VIV inspection. Full VIV booking and inspection fees apply.

    To make an appointment to register a vehicle, see Registering a Repairable Write-off Vehicle .


    Repeat customers
    Repeat customers using the VIV inspection scheme are expected to be aware of all the inspection requirements including the supply of all required paper work. Failure to supply the required information or failure to present a vehicle in a repaired and roadworthy condition will result in difficulties at the time of the VIV inspection. The vehicle may fail the inspection which will require a full re-booking. Full VIV booking and inspection fees will apply



    http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home...TheVehicleIdentityValidationVIVinspection.htm
     
  18. BADZX

    BADZX Grumpy old fart

    What is a WOVR ....... Written-off Vehicles Register (WOVR)

    whats important here is.....
    Classification of written-off vehicles
    A vehicle is classed as written-off when it has been damaged to an extent where the insurer considers it uneconomical to repair (but is repairable), or the damage is such that it is not safe to repair for registration and road use.
    Written-off vehicles are classified and recorded in the Written-off Vehicles Register under the following types:

    Statutory write-off, or
    Repairable write-off


    http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home...s/WhatistheWrittenoffVehiclesRegisterWOVR.htm
     
  19. BADZX

    BADZX Grumpy old fart

    What you WILL need to do and have thats NOT listed on Vicroads .......



    Statutary Dec. for a chassis alignment:

    Either a computer generated report showing both before and after alignment measurements
    Or a signed report from an authorised body repairer showing both before and after alignment measurements

    Costs on a 'rack & report' vary greatly, pays to shop around
    ;)


    Replacement panels / parts:

    Must supply ALL receipt's from wreckers for ALL 2nd hand parts used.
    eBay and similar auction site purchases are not generally accepted except where a registered motor vehicle wrecker is selling via these sites, again a full receipt showing all details are required

    All receipts must be supplied for all NEW parts from the vehicles manafacturer


    Pics:
    before, during repairs, finished .... the more the better :eek:

    Detailed photos of all damaged areas pre repairs must be supplied.
    Detailed photos of ALL work in progress.
    Detailed photos of finished repairs in the areas that sustained damage.





    How to beat a VIV:
    cancel your registration INSTANTLY following the accident, VIV's are only issued to registered vehicles
    ;)




    In all honesty....
    its just a scheme to empty your pocket of cash even tho your the one doing the hard yards.






    Kingy
     
  20. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    THIS IS A GREAT TIP !!!

    Thanks Kingy
     

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