300ZX TT Vs. XR6 Turbo

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by rhy_boy1, Dec 11, 2008.

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  1. kbro3

    kbro3 Baby oil technician.

    To be fair, you're looking at an overall figure, remember the 300zx was available in Japan, USA, Europe and Australia. Whereas you're comparing it to the xr6t which is available in Australia only. Not trying to start an argument, but you need to compare on the same scale. How many 300zx came out in Australia? (not sure how many, so can't put any figures here).

    Also, 164,170 may not be an accurate figure (not saying it is definitely false, but Wikipedia is not always a credible source of info).

    Nemz: This guy has an xr6t and loves it, why try so hard to shoot his car down and call it low-tech or unreliable or whatever? Engine wise, it's no lower tech than a 300zx.

    I don't want our forum to look like we think zeds are top shit and look down on those who drive something else; we're all enthusiasts here! :)

  2. JETzx


    Joe Bloggs sold his 300zx due to reliability problems. I dont know what the culprit is but could have been one of the few rumoured problems going such as overheating.
  3. nemz

    nemz nemz cam: active

    hey not saying they are a completely bad car.

    in my opinion handle like rubbish in standard trim though, i found driving most of them boring at best.

    my mums au has been bullet proof, mind you it only has about 50,000kms on the clock, she never drives it.

    the main complaint from my stable is about the xr6t's, brand new off the shelf, there was a bundle of problems(standard no mods), im sure most of these would have been ironed out after ford's service department copped a beating. but yeah, once stung, twice shy
  4. nemz

    nemz nemz cam: active

    zeds can be a pain in the arse, but you cant compare a zed to a falcon in any case, apples and oranges

    and of course this is a zed forum, whats the expected response ^_^

    i have no remorse for any any of my actions or feelings towards xr6 turbo's, and if you dont like it, got back to the xr6 forum, and you wont have to listen to my view on them :D

    jus playin ;)
  5. LOWZX

    LOWZX Banned

    the only thing you can add is something you jumped onto google to get and quote it lol ,go find another thread and google an answer

    way too late for that kirill,tossers far outweigh enthusiasts on this forum im afraid
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  6. wassaw7

    wassaw7 New Member

    Nemz, are you sure you dont really drive an S13 or R33? Because you sound like you belong with the fools on SAU, who bag out anything non-silvia/skyline/supra.

    If you would tone down your rhetoric you wouldn't look so foolish and have people call you moron etc... You are speaking with the tone as if the Z32 is the best car ever made. I know you dont think that, but that is how you are coming across.
  7. badxtc

    badxtc kirby's bitch

    i dont know about this one ,, i dont thinks so ,,, never seen it do it before
  8. badxtc

    badxtc kirby's bitch

    is this michael ????????????
  9. nemz

    nemz nemz cam: active

    i wouldnt want to label anything as the best car ever made, as you couldnt really give any car such a label, you could possibly say, X car is one of the most revolutionary cars ever made, because it introduced hybrid technology to lower fuel consumption by X amount.

    how could something hold such a generalised label on such a broad spectrum, every car has a unique purpose, or has been designed for a certain market

    an xr6t is essentially designed as a family car, with extra power on a budget for the aussie dad who likes to put his foot down, the xr6 turbo, fulfills its purpose well, hence it sold so well in australia!

    the 300zx was designed for a smaller niche market, essentially a 2 seater, sports car, good handling, good suspension and brakes, not the best by any means, but i beleive it was a good effort by nissan

    the cars are also over a decade apart
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  10. nemz

    nemz nemz cam: active

  11. VIXEN-T

    VIXEN-T New Member

    nemz have u noticed none of ur peers are backing u up here? Im not jumping on this forum saying xr6ts are better than the Z im just saying the xr6t is a quicker car, easier to modify etc, the Z shits all over it as far as handling is concerned but thats expected when u put a 2door purpose build sports car up against a 4 door sedan @ 1700kg, and the same when u compare the 4.0litre straight 6 with a stock 600hp turbo against the 3.0 litre V6 with two small turbos. Maybe ur brothers have bought a couple of lemons, maybe they were built on a friday when all the factory workers cbf anymore n wanted to go home i dont know, as far as my XR is concerned it has served me well and continues to serve me well im happy with it and ur obviously happy with your Z so smile have a can of coke n shut da fk up! :biggrin:
  12. VIXEN-T

    VIXEN-T New Member

    howdy! yes tis me lol when we gona have another crack at 11s?? next time ill come more prepared haha :biggrin:
  13. kbro3

    kbro3 Baby oil technician.

    Hey when you say 12psi actuator, do you mean that he did that run at 12psi?

    Also what's the benefit of the bigger plenum? Is the stock one restrictive or was it done mainly for response?

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  14. badxtc

    badxtc kirby's bitch

    hahahahah how ya going man ,,, yeah we will for sure ,,,
    man it was to hot for all of us , but we done good ...
    just waiting for the injection to come , ( god knows how long ) ,, but we will for sure .. ( ok man heads up dont let ppl bother you )))))

    you know we both got 11 under our belt ...... lol.. ok take care talk soon ,, im going to bed ,,
  15. VIXEN-T

    VIXEN-T New Member

    nah the stock ford actuator is a 3psi unit from memory which means the minimum u can run on it is 3psi (factory xr6ts run 5spi), theyr ok for up to 12psi but once u push past that they dont hold boost very well, so $150 will get you a 12psi actuator. Danny (my tuner) from memory runs about 18psi.

    The standard plenum is pretty good you can still get close to 400rwkw with it but people change it 1. for better top end performance 2. it shortens the cold side piping from the intercooler to the throttle body so improves response 3. coz it looks fkn tough lol
  16. 300zxt

    300zxt Well-Known Member

    Mean machines for sure, I've had a fair bit of experience with Fords straight 6 since it's been relatively the same for a long time besides the obvious tweaks. It's stupid reliable, leave a ford sitting for 5 years and it'll crank right up no problems. The negative press about Ford is all USDM, because Americans cant make cars for the most part. I couldn't justify paying XR6T money though off the shelf, it's too much for a domestic even though it's badass I still couldn't drop that kind of coin on one myself. I'd wait until they depreciate like hell and pick it up second hand if I was to get one...
  17. VIXEN-T

    VIXEN-T New Member

    im with u there i wouldnt buy one brand new either....infact i probably wouldnt buy any car brand new haha theyr money pits just depreciate like nothing! I picked my XR6T up nearly 2yrs ago for $27k full leather, sunroof, factory sat nav, premium sound couldnt say no! :D
  18. 300zxt

    300zxt Well-Known Member

    $27k is still big money though, give me that budget with my Z and I'd walk you easy! lol That's high 9, low 10 second 1/4 mile budget territory there with the right modifications. I've seen a few quick XR6Ts at willowbank, the quickest I've seen just scraped a high 10 and this thing was way unstreetable by then too.

    My old man is all Ford, he has an XR6 himself so I know how good they are. I had a regular XT model as a rental not that long ago and even though it was fago-matic it still pulled pretty hard and took a beating well. But if you count the money it costs you to buy one, then modify it you wont get much change from $30k-$40k+ and that kind of coin dropped in a Z will be one serious machine that will beat just about any Domestic. Add in a few corners and there's no chance for the big Ford! :)
  19. MAX

    MAX Ex Zedder

    I don't get it whats your point?
  20. Benny_C

    Benny_C About as subtle as...

    I believe it's the other way around. The longer the crank, the more balancing it requires.

    This is why the Zed's VG runs fine without a harmonic balancer and just a light weight underdrive pulley, because it's a short crank and doesn't require as much balancing.
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