looking to get the most possible power

Discussion in 'Technical' started by ZzRobbozZ, Apr 21, 2009.

  1. ZzRobbozZ

    ZzRobbozZ New Member

    haha you all make 300zx sound extremely unreliable
    had full rebuild 60,000 ago and ive changed brakes serviced
    new coolant everything...runs perfect so for the time being dont think it will die
    udp worth the money? like do you notice a difference in power?
     
  2. a2zed

    a2zed Guest

    Pod, udp, headers, cam gears and tune. That is about all that is economical to do on a na. The next step is compression, porting, solid cams, os valves, balancing, basically make it rev to 8500+.

    After spendiing all this money a stock boosted tt will still be all over it.
     
  3. ZzRobbozZ

    ZzRobbozZ New Member

    ive allready got exhaust pod lol
    and as i said only got 2g to spend by the sounds of it most of that is out of my budget
     
  4. Cam

    Cam ****

    Can buy a TT for that. ;)
    Might cost you a bit more in the end but the results will heavily out weigh an NA!
     
  5. ZzRobbozZ

    ZzRobbozZ New Member

    only got 2 grand lol
    whats with people and not reading properly
    theres no way id be able 2 get a tt for 2grand
    unless your refering to the quote someone made about
    10 grand in which case i agree why waste time on an n/a if
    you have 10 grand to burn
     
  6. LOWZX

    LOWZX Banned

    you could always start your mods off by putting your wheels on the right way lol
     
  7. ZedEx

    ZedEx Dr No

    How many kms on on your ODO? Why would an NA need a rebuild unless it was BADLY overheated or starved of oil?
    300zx's are 'extremely unreliable' they're just getting long in the tooth after 20 years, and one has to expect parts to fail after that long.

     
  8. ZzRobbozZ

    ZzRobbozZ New Member

    putting my wheels on the right way? what do you mean?
     
  9. Zexual

    Zexual Zed Head

    hey bud.. dont worry bout engine trust me. i had an NA zed prettty quick for basically stock. Ran a 14.8 from memory still havent uploaded the slip to the site. The car was putting down 126rwkw not bad. But in all honesty i dropped doing the VG30 as the end resullt would have cost to much for a car that would still have been munched by a stock Type R or even a mild B16 with I/H/E and a tune. The money is better spent on suspension and tires.

    BUT!

    If you are chasing power out of the VG and taking into account what you have already. i would do this.
    Extractors...
    And TUNE
    Few people realise how much there is to gain over nissans soft settings in the ECU. Nistune it..

    The little that you have left goes into your account for brakes and sussy and tires

    That is all i would do.. none of this Underdrive pulley, lightened flywheel, Gold Covered Diamond enriched superman spark plugs. Really not worth the $ input.

    Stock clutch will sufice

    Cheers James
     
  10. Drift Spec

    Drift Spec New Member

    Havnt read whole thread, so sorry if some one has already mentioned.
    You can get rid of the engine fan and replace it with a $50 thermo fan. Works a treat. My Zed was boiling after a couple of laps drifting. Now all good with thermo running.
    One less thing for the engine to be spinning. Very small gain, but hey, it all adds up. N go the lightened UDP.
    :D:D:D
     
  11. Cam

    Cam ****

    Obviously you can't read either. I said you can buy a TT engine for 2 grand. ECU's are cheap too.

    Even better, sell you incredibly reliable NA and just buy a TT. :whatever:
    Common sense just isn't common anymore.

    Where's your head at? He said he wants more power, not quicker lap times in the ricer catagory. :rolleyes:
    Need turbos man, POWER!!!! :D

    However, I do agree with about 35% of everything after "BUT!" UDP and LFW will help but stupidly expensive plugs are stupid considering the Z's already top gun ignition system. Coppers would do the job fine.
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2009
  12. ed300zx

    ed300zx Active Member

    lol cam

    You did say 'you can buy a tt for two grand'...he may have thought you meant tt 300zx not tt engine...

    also...engine can be had for 2k + all the other parts needed for the swap...+ labour if you cant do it yourself or cant get help with it...

    ZzRobbozZ...follow drz400y's advise...he knows his shit ;)
     
  13. Cam

    Cam ****

    I know my shit too, it's brown most of the time and smells bad.
    Also, DON'T buy NA's if you are going to want more power later. :bash:
    Sell the damn thing and get a TT like you were supposed to in the first place!
    TT = power on tap. ;)
     
  14. ed300zx

    ed300zx Active Member

    agreed ;)

    PS: whats with he shit comment? whats that got to do with anything...:confused:
     
  15. Zexual

    Zexual Zed Head

    Wheres your head at thinking you can buy and get a TT engine running for His budget of 2k?:confused:. Thats like me saying "hey if you want to go NA just buy a VH45DE for $1500 bucks and drop that in":p I think relax with the TT conversions obviosuly unacheiveable at this stage for him.

    On a serious note though i think you guys give to much credit to the UDP. I had installed one and i had it dynod before and after. Which resulted in a gain of 1.9rwkw. Im sure you will try and argue that different days or ambient temp, or humidity played its role in masking the true potential of the UDP. But for the Money it is not a great mod. Though i do agree that it felt to rev more freely.

    Really if you think about how much a UDP and LWF cost, you may aswell save up and buy small 100HP wet NO2 kit for 800 bucks n then optimise that with Nistune and the remaining money to go on dyno time.
    To bad its illegal, though that doesnt stop some people.;)

    James
     
  16. Cam

    Cam ****

    I said he could buy a TT engine. I also said in my previously misunderstood post that it will cost him a bit more in the end and benefits will heavily out weigh. :rolleyes:
    We also don't condone illegal mods and activities on this forum. ;)

    Mate, if you have an income and patience, then try waiting and spend that little bit more for bigger results with a TT rather than blowing 2 grand on shit. You will get sweet F A otherwise.


    As for Erik, re read our posts and see if you can get it. I was having a play on words. :p
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2009
  17. ZzRobbozZ

    ZzRobbozZ New Member

    haha ok 57icky
    just to spite you got turbo conversion quotes for my car
    8700
    5500(not installed)
    6700
    also running tt engines that arent going to die
    lowest i could find was 5grand
    so im sorry but its a long long way from my budget
     
  18. Benny_C

    Benny_C About as subtle as...

    you CAN get better quotes than that. You can get a whole half cut and a 100,000k service kit for $5500 :eek:

    However this is getting way off topic now. You've asked what you can do for your NA engine for $2000, and i think that question has been well and truley answered.

    Hopefully the mods you choose will do your desired job. Modifying a Zed to satisfaction is an ongoing thing, take your time and just do it bit-by-bit. Best thing you can do is SEARCH a lot on this forum, then use the collective info from peoples experiences then make yourself up a list of what you want to do from there, then nibble away at them according to priorities.

    Just my AUD$0.02 :)
    Happy Zedding :zlove:
     
  19. Cam

    Cam ****

    Those prices would include install.
    I got my long engine and recon turbos for 3300 From some place down the gold coast nearly a year ago and she's still going hard. Like I said twice before, you can buy an engine for 2 grand. For 2 grand, I'd suggest selling your car and buying a TT. :whatever:
     
  20. ZzRobbozZ

    ZzRobbozZ New Member

    buying a tt for 2 grand is a terrible idea
    im sure lots of others would agree with me
     

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