Brake rotor guard

Discussion in 'Technical' started by vbevan, Jul 17, 2007.

  1. vbevan

    vbevan Active Member

    Can anyone tell me the purpose of the guard over the brake rotors? The metal one that comes from around the back and covers them.
     
  2. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

    It's there to reduce the likelihood of anything getting caught up on the spinning rotor disc(the tyre and rim serve the same purpose on the outside of the disc. It also serves as a deflector to prevent cold water from splashing on a red hot brake disc and causing it to crack. Unfortunately, sometimes a small rock or piece of gravel can get trapped in between the disc and the shield, and can destroy the braking surface of the disc by machining a deep groove into it.:zlove::zlove:

     
  3. vbevan

    vbevan Active Member

    So, bending it up to allow bigger rotors in would be preferable to removing it?
     
  4. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

    Mine needed very little reshaping to accommodate 324mm rotors(just some gentle prying with a flat tyre lever), and moved about 5mm.:zlove::zlove:


     
  5. Gazza

    Gazza Active Member

    Its also a legal thing required from the manufacturers Im pretty sure. The guard stops foreign matter from jamming between the pad and the disc which could potentially hinder braking performance, especially if you consider the fun of only one brake working at the front, it would pull you off the road under an emergency braking situation.
     
  6. OdinZ

    OdinZ New Member

    heat retention??

    dont some people remove them to allow a quicker heat dissipation? i found out that overheating brakes are quite an issue on the track :eek: Havent removed mine yet but had thought about it... not sure now:rolleyes:
     
  7. vbevan

    vbevan Active Member

    Track should be ok. Shouldn't be much lose debris floating around there. Other wise drill some small holes in it. Kinda like a sieve. That way it will still do it's job but not stop airflow.
     
  8. Wizard

    Wizard Kerb side Prophet

    Removed mine

    Purely for track use due to overheating, also fitted ducting for extra cooling.

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  9. tom@pzp

    tom@pzp www.pzp.com.au

    holy crap batman! that's one bad shudder when you hit the skids! :)
     
  10. Wizard

    Wizard Kerb side Prophet

    Happened in the pits

    Heard the tell tale ping,
    Didn't give it enough time to cool down, cut short the cool down lap
    won't do that again.:eek:
     
  11. fradda

    fradda I've been everywhere man.

    hey Ron hows that brake cooling system working for you, looks primitive I mean simple set up, but does it work???
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2007
  12. Wizard

    Wizard Kerb side Prophet

    Hey Jorge

    Haven't tried it at the track yet, but no reason it wont work, simple is usually the best, couple of examples.
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  13. fradda

    fradda I've been everywhere man.

    that is a great easy mod that should work well then. Your right simple is usually better. Thanks
     
  14. sandeep

    sandeep Active Member

    Wiz, where do you direct the air towards? Is the outlet of the pipe facing the middle section of the rotor where the cooling veins are? Looks like a mod even I could do and I've got an old vacuum cleaner hose that looks exactly like the hose you're using so could even use that if it is suitable.
    Would I need to do anything to stop it picking up water if I'm drving on a wet road?
     
  15. vbevan

    vbevan Active Member

    Is the big red hose on the Stillen Z brake cooling? :eek:
     
  16. Wizard

    Wizard Kerb side Prophet

    Air is directed

    To the centre of the rotor,
    the rotors i'm running are 324mm curved veins which pull the air from the centre to the outside, so in effect it's pulling cool air through the rotor from the centre.
    wouldn't use old vacuum cleaner hose as it will melt on you,
    you need special heat resistant hose, purchased mine from UAS.
    wouldn't worry about the little bit of water your liable to get through the hose, wouldn't be any more than would splash up onto the rotor from wet roads.

    Vbevan, red hose is running to all four brakes, also to oil coolers on steves Zed, had a good look over it when i was at the Stillen complex

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  17. UNIQUE ZED

    UNIQUE ZED Zed Racing World

    Brake cooling

    We tested the air deflectors on a R34 GTT at Wakefield a few weeks ago, 8 C ambient and put on one side only and tested a few times and 250c on side with out and 100c side with it. Tests were done when it came off the track shooting an infra red gun on same part of the rotor testing left to right.
    Also it is important to remove factory heat shields whether you have ducting of air deflectors or not.
     
  18. vbevan

    vbevan Active Member

    So you're saying the brakes ran alot cooler with the brake guards left on?
     
  19. UNIQUE ZED

    UNIQUE ZED Zed Racing World

    Pics of Slot Car brake ducting and air deflectors

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