Big problem bolt in turbo how to get it out

Discussion in 'Technical' started by bret, Mar 30, 2018.

  1. bret

    bret Member

    Hi mate did that to it spins freely and rechecked 3 times lol
     
  2. jellybeans

    jellybeans Active Member

    well good luck i hope it's been a wild goose chase and the bolt is somewhere else.
     
  3. bret

    bret Member

    Same thank u for yore help hope to c u at a meet soon thanx agane
     
  4. jellybeans

    jellybeans Active Member

    your welcome Bret, good luck with the z, sounds like your bringing it up to scratch. Not easy to work on these cars.
    might be a while before i get to a meet . Got 2 problem Z's at the moment can't drive either. thats why im spending so much time on the 300zx forum. hahaha

    Matt
     
  5. Madcow

    Madcow Active Member


    All is not as it seems in the world of the unfairlady.
     
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  6. jellybeans

    jellybeans Active Member

    unfairlady..... first time i heard that but i like it a lot madcow
     
  7. bret

    bret Member

    Hope it’s not to big a problem sorry to hear that yes iv put a lot of time cash blood skin and anger at time lol but it’s worth it I think In the end iv spent countless months on here over the last 3 years iv found this sight to b a wealth of knowledge and the people verry helpful it hard to find people who know Thea’s cars most don’t want to know (it’s to hard) it good to know u can post any problem on here and some one will know good luck with both of your z’s
     
  8. bret

    bret Member

    Lol don’t jinx me man lol
     
  9. bret

    bret Member

    I think I have more investigation to do on bolt in the turbo as iv been advised it may be in the waste gate is this correct have been told to disconnect the actuator and open the waste gate flap is this correct everything turns smooth iv blown air in the turbo no rattling
     
  10. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    Given the anatomy of a turbocharger it seems extremely unlikely the bolt could migrate from the turbocharger inlet to the wastegate...
     
  11. jellybeans

    jellybeans Active Member

    Bret, im assuming you had the turbo bolted to the exhaust manifold and the exhaust was still connected at the time you originally dropped the bolt? Im also assuming that you had either or both the air intake and turbo outlet covered with rags?
    If so the only place you could have dropped the bolt was down into the compressor side of the turbo. either into the intake (unlikely because it is side on and facing the radiator and there is little room to get something past the tight fitting compressor wheel)
    So most likely down the compressor outlet which was facing up more towards the bonnet and is the perfect place to drop a bolt.
    If you dropped a bolt into either of these locations there is no path through to the waste gate past the turbo bearing.
    the only way for a bolt to go from intake to exhaust is through the engine via intercooler, intake, past valves into combustion chamber back out past valves into exhaust manifold and then into exhaust housing / wastegate.
    so i would so no chance its in your waste gate.

    Still can't say if its hiding in the compressor side somewhere though. You originally said you heard it fall in . You'll have to be absolutely sure it's not in there or it could be bye bye engine. if there is any doubt i think you should pull the turbo if possible, or if as i here a lot, its engine out to pull a turbo. if you stuff that motor after all your work your going to wish you pulled it out cause you'll be pulling it out anyway if that bolt does get spat out.
     
  12. bret

    bret Member

    I thort it went down the snail shell iv blown it out with a air compressor turned the fans by hand all is ok then I was told to check the waste gate?
     
  13. jellybeans

    jellybeans Active Member

    maybe someone could comment on weather the car would run with only one turbo connected. If so you could start the car without connecting the suspect turbo. if the turbo does have a bolt in it it might get blown out into you bonnet
    this may leave you with a damaged turbo but not a damaged motor
     
  14. bret

    bret Member

    Yes u are correct the one facing up is we’re i thought it went I have triple checked as I’m fully aware of wot will happen everything spins as it should and blew it out as our earlyer conversation there is no rattling I was pretty confident till I was told this waste gate issue
     
  15. jellybeans

    jellybeans Active Member

    id disregard the waste gate theory totally but the guy that offered that advice may not have known how much you had pulled apart so im not discrediting him. All help is good help just have to go through it in a process of elimination
     
  16. bret

    bret Member

    The engine was in the car the hole time the exhaust was only removed to do the auto and rear main seal and put back on the turbo has been on the engine the hole time it’s not in the inlet iv had the bore scope in there had a look and removed the inlet hard pipe to spin the fan
     
  17. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    There is no way for a bolt dropped into the compressor side of the turbo to end up in the wastegate.
     
  18. bret

    bret Member

    Thank u rob do U have any other ideas of checking other than wot I have done I am pretty Shaw it’s ok but wold like to hear any other ideas
     
  19. AndrewG

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    What size is the bolt?
     
  20. bret

    bret Member

    It was a 10 12 mm bolt can’t remember exactly what size it was it was a while ago I’m ashuming a bolt of that size wold ither jam the turbine or make a rattling sound
     

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