Building a forged motor do's and don'ts ?

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by Alan300zx, Nov 30, 2013.

  1. Alan300zx

    Alan300zx A&S motor group

    Hey guys I have decided to rebuild the spare engine I have it's from Dylan's old ride ( spun a bearing )

    forged pistons and rods
    upgraded valves and ported heads
    T2860 turbos .72 rear housing
    Mapped apexi ecu
    555 cc injectors

    The exact damage is unknown at this point , hoping the internals arnt to bad
    Going to rebuild the bottom end , service heads , replace
    all belts and gaskets , would anybody know what else I should do whilst the engine is out ? I would like to del as many things as possible that I don't need like ac system , some vacuum lines etc aiming for 450 to 500 hp with a tune and would like to get it right the first time
     
  2. 3clipse

    3clipse #TEAMROB

    If you can afford it, I would be replacing the injectors with something a little larger...
    You can make good power with the 555's, how ever, you will start to max them around the 20psi mark.

    I know Trent (KawasakiRider) was running 22psi (360rwkw) on his with no problems though.

    From what I've heard, that motor was relatively new, so hopefully everything should still be alright. If you're lucky, it will just need new bearings - but no one is ever that lucky with zeds :p
     
  3. SRB-2NV

    SRB-2NV #TEAMROB

    555cc injectors will be tapping out around 400rwkw on 98RON. However if you still want to go E85, they will be MUCH too small.
     
  4. 90TTZ

    90TTZ Back From The Dead

    If the oil pump is original then that would be a good item to replace. Under plenum bypass is another good job to get done and also EGR delete as both of these things gone make maintenance and repairs down the track a heck of a lot easier. Make sure you replace every water and vacuum hose while the engine is out as some of these are terrible to access when the engine is in situ. Detonation Sensor and sub harness is also something else that is impossible to do without removing the lower inlet plenum.

    As far as injectors go, the 555's will be OK for the power you are looking for unless you are going to run alcohol as previously stated by SRB-2NV. If you think they will be on the edge, its cheaper to add an adjustable fuel pressure regulator and set the base fuel pressure at 50-55PSI.
     
  5. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

    Spun bearing will almost certainly require the crank being ground and the offending rod closed and honed at least or replaced at worst.

    To be honest, if it were mine, Id be carefully measuring every rod for out of round of the pins and even consider closing and honing all rods together for piece of mind.Meaning removing all pistons, close and hone rebalancing rods and reassembly.

    Then again, a set of Spool/Eagle/scat Chro-Mo H-beams is so cheap now, barely $100 each, might just be worth replacing altogether. Thats just me tho.

    So, if you are going to do it right, aim to cover labour to R&R pistons, close/hone-replace rods, grind crank and full balance in your estimations.

    If your a tightarse, then just chuck another old rod at it and linish the crank by hand!!!!
    Itl'll live!

    E
     
  6. MIKEA

    MIKEA Member

    Replace or service everything that is difficult to do when the engine is in.
    suggest you HPC coat everything that emits heat whilst out so as to reduce engine bay heat radiation . Think out side just doing the engine what can you do easily whilst it is out, Clutch? Dump pipes, steering etc. Make it a major overhaul it will save time down the track
     
  7. Alan300zx

    Alan300zx A&S motor group

    Thanks for the replies

    I thought I read some were 1cc would max out at 1 hp so 555 cc injectors should max at 555hp , I'm going to use a adjustable fuel reg as well I would like to go e85 still thinking about it

    What can the stock gearbox handle ?
    Stock brakes ?
    Clutch?
    Were can you buy a aftermarket oil pump ?
     
  8. Shane001

    Shane001 Well-Known Member

    For standard PULP 98 555's should be fine. If you wanna run E85 though you'll need a lot bigger. Generally E85 requires about 30% more fuel.
     
  9. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    No such thing and no need
     
  10. Alan300zx

    Alan300zx A&S motor group

    Update

    Damage to the motor as follows

    One bent rod
    Two bearings spun
    Damage to the crank

    Anybody know were I can source parts ? Also anything else to check?

    Confirmed upgrades to the motor
    Upgraded valve springs
    Ported head
    T28 .71 turbo
    Forged pistons

    Looking to convert to e85 as well

    Wanted parts
    1000cc injectors
    360 degree fuel rails
    Stock tt crank

    Race bearings
    Race rods
    Gasket kit
     
  11. SRB-2NV

    SRB-2NV #TEAMROB

    I have a whole tt bottom end you can buy for cheap.
     
  12. kawasakirider

    kawasakirider New Member

    http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328504
     
  13. Chad_

    Chad_ Well-Known Member

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