aircon leak

Discussion in 'Technical' started by aj_bondarenko, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. aj_bondarenko

    aj_bondarenko New Member

    Hey guys,
    I'm Andy, first time posting :D
    Just bought a 1990 300zx tt manual with 90k on the clock, very impressed with it so far. However, I went to get the cars aircon regassed the other day but the mechanic said it was leaking aircon gas by the compressor. I think (and hope) it might be hose leading into the compressor. Just wondering how hard and what is involved to get to that hose to replaced. I went and got a quote from adelaide zcars and he said $600 to replace the compressor and hoses ( plus regas ). Don't really want to be spending that kind of money on the aircon, when I hear they are extremely prone to leaks due to the immense under the bonnet
    Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sorry if this subject has already been covered, couldn't find a similar thread.

    Cheers :)
     
  2. QLDZDR

    QLDZDR ID=David

    Did you say 90k kilometres on the clock?

    Does the car look and feel like a tight 6-9 year old car?

    The air con regas guy should have been able to advise you, since he found the leak.
    They run a dye through the system to find the leaks.
     
  3. aj_bondarenko

    aj_bondarenko New Member

    yes 92k on the clock, it feels as new. Everything feels stock, interior is all original and is very good condition. I bought it from was a 50yr old guy who used it as a weekend cruiser.
    The paint is pretty good for a 20yr old car, a few patches need to be attended to on the spoiler.

    The aircon guy only put the neutral gas (without the dye) in the system to see if it would hold it's charge before putting the aircon gas in. He said he could hear it leaking out near the compressor so he didn't re-gas it. I might go get a second opinion somewhere.
     
  4. OZX_320

    OZX_320 Detachable Member

    could be as simple as the o-rings at the compressor. Generally means they all will need replacing.
    Also, old AC system is R12 (now illegal gas). Have the option of R134A retrofit or have heard that Hychill is also an option.

    ........ Hate to say it, but would be placing some very serious doubt on the k's being genuine.
     
  5. kakaboy

    kakaboy New Member

    I would do the orings on the whole system as you have to put 134A in . You also need a new Dryer and possibly new oil in compressor .

    I have just been thru this and my aircon is cold and works well . best investment imo .

    From what I have been told Hychill is still regarded as a new alternate gas and not the standard 134A that is in all cars atm . Hychill seems to have a condensing issue which can be a problem for some systems to return the gas to a liquid .
     
  6. aj_bondarenko

    aj_bondarenko New Member

    Yeah i know what your saying. 92k for a 300zxtt manual seems quite rare. I'm not sure if it's genuine or not, probably been reset when it was imported or something.

    Kakaboy did you replace the o-rings yourself or get a mechanic to do it? how much did the whole aircon rebuild cost you? mine has been retrofitted with R134A
     
  7. kakaboy

    kakaboy New Member

    Did it all myself . The AC guy just come out and Vac tested and then regassed

    Orings $20 max , Dryer $50 , Oil $40 . I have some here if you need it . System only takes 100ml and you already have 134A fittings so your good to go .

    Regas $200
     
  8. pexzed

    pexzed Forum Administrator

    probably a fair price if it includes a reconditioned compressor
     
  9. OZX_320

    OZX_320 Detachable Member

    I paid close to $600 for my R134 retrofit :(
    That included all new o-rings
    RX/TX valve
    Receiver Dryer
    Clutch for AC compressor reconditioned
     
  10. aj_bondarenko

    aj_bondarenko New Member

    I guess $600 does seem like a reasonable price then.
    I just hope it doesnt leak again a few months down the track.

    Cheers for the help guys, really appreciated.
     
  11. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

    "Hychill" is a simple tradename for a mix of propane and butane gas. "(approx 70/30)
    Its a straight drop in replacement for R12 and works well. Compatible with existing o-rings and compressor oil. Why its not more popular and rendering R134a totally obsolete is beyond me.........

    E
     
  12. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    Anyone rebuilt their own aircon compressor? Is it just general things like seals and bearings? It's not something I've really looked into.
     
  13. ryzan

    ryzan Moderator Staff Member

    Because then there'd be no money for all the big businesses producing r134. Why have a cheaper natural alternative when there's big money to be made with a high profit margin, even if it's less effective.
     
  14. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

    I asked the question many times years ago and always got the answer, not worth the bother.

    As a rule, the only seviceable bits are the front shaft seals and front pulley/clutch assembly.
    I have seen the endplates pulled off and new o-rings installed there as well.

    Ryzan,
    I suspect your exactly right!!! Still beats me tho!!

    E
     
  15. aj_bondarenko

    aj_bondarenko New Member

    Where can you take it to get the aircon regassed with "Hychill"...is it much cheaper than the standard 100-150 mark for regas of r134?
     
  16. Zeo

    Zeo Active Member

    Hi and welcome to the hallucinogen that is the Z. If you are down south, and haven't already, you should take it to Barry at Adelaide Z Cars and have him give it the once over.:zlove:
     
  17. black baz

    black baz black 'n blue Bazemy

    see first post ... been there, done dat.
     
  18. aj_bondarenko

    aj_bondarenko New Member

    thanks zeo...
    yes already spoke to Barry, probably will bring it down to him soon....bought many parts from him when I was restoring my 280zx..
     

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