Legally removing front indicators.

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by waynoz, Jan 28, 2012.

  1. waynoz

    waynoz New Member

    Ok, have a question on car mods.

    I want to not use the indicators or the fog lights on the front of the Z, i'd prefer after market projector fog/driving lights and a set of LED DRL/ Indicators which will be installed somewhere on the bar.

    question.

    can i legally remove and not use the factory indicators which would have better side visibility for other drivers

    can i install LED Indicators lower to the ground on the bar than stock

    can i install driving lights in the place where the original indicators would have been?

    WaynoZ
     
  2. ross

    ross Member

    As long as you can see you indicators front on and side on you would be fine.
    Driving lights , in nsw, we can only use as fitted +2, there are min and max heights from the road, when dipped ( low beam ) not on.

    ross
     
  3. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

    get orange angel eye indicators that would be kind of cool maybe

    or just fit a LED strip in the headlight
     
  4. waynoz

    waynoz New Member

    from the side would be an issue, unless the gaurd indicators are sufficient enough? might have to hide some smaller ones on the side of the bar if thats allowable?


    i think i know what you are talking about.. o.0 pics??
     
  5. ross

    ross Member

    A lot off new cars use the back off the mirror for there side indicators, the stock gaurd indicators are fine.

    ross
     
  6. newz

    newz New Member

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  7. waynoz

    waynoz New Member

    nice, but i've already bought the DRL's...


     
  8. black baz

    black baz black 'n blue Bazemy

    you are seeking a legal solution to what you want to mod with your lights.

    you would be foolish to to do anything without first checking/clearing what you want to do with the appropriate Victoria Authority/RTA etc.,
     
  9. ABZ300

    ABZ300 G

    Waynoz you can do what i have currently...

    I have side mirrors which has LED indicators on the outside casing as well as on the actual mirror aswell :) Quite nice at night...

    Could be a good option for you to look at. My mirrors can be programmed for amber indicators (legal) or blue.

    Abraham
     
  10. DinoZ

    DinoZ Talks sh#t for a living.

    If I remember correctly - front indicators have to be visible from in front of the vehicle at an angle of up to 45 degrees to both left and right for each indicator
     
  11. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

    You remember correctly.:zlove:
     
  12. waynoz

    waynoz New Member

    thanks,
    do you remember if there was a hight allowance?
     
  13. Vader

    Vader Just another guy

    From here: http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/adr_online.aspx

    Go to here:
    http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Series/F2005L03907

    Which opens this page up:
    http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2006C00784

    Disclaimer: Don't take any advice I give here as "the truth" - go find it out for yourself.

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    3. MARKINGS
    Devices submitted for approval shall:
    3.1. bear the trade name or mark of the applicant; this marking shall be clearly legible and indelible;
    3.2. bear a clearly legible and indelible marking indicating the category or categories of filament lamps prescribed; this is not valid for lamps with non-replaceable light sources;
    3.3. comprise a space of sufficient size for the approval marking and the additional symbols prescribed in paragraph 4.2. below; this space shall be shown in the drawings mentioned in paragraph 2.2.1. above;
    3.4. in the case of lamps with non-replaceable light sources, bear the marking of rated voltage and rated wattage.
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    Intensity of Light emitted
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    Minimum horizontal angles of light distribution in space:
    Categories 1, 1 a and 1 b: direction indicators for the front of the vehicle:
    Category 1: for use at a distance not less than 40 mm from the headlamp;
    Category 1a: for use at a distance greater than 20 mm but less than 40 mm from the headlamp;
    Cateqory 1b: for use at a distance less than 20 mm from the headlamp.
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    Category 2a: Direction indicators with one level of intensity for the rear of the vehicle.
    Category 2b: Direction indicators with two levels of intensity for the rear of the vehicle.
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    Category 3: Front-side direction indicators for use on a vehicle equipped with this category of directionindicator only.
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    Category 4: Front-side direction indicators for use on a vehicle also equipped with category 2a or 2b direction indicators.
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    Cateaories 5 and 6: Supplementary side direction indicators for use on a vehicle also equipped with categories 1, 1a or 1 b and 2a or 2b direction indicators.
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    Approval mark
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    As for positioning, it's more about the angles than height.
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    Table of standard light distribution in space for direction indicators of the categories 1, 1 a. 1 b, 2a, 2b 3. 4 and 5
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    For direction indicators of category 6
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    2.1. The direction H = 0 degrees and V = 0 degrees corresponds to the reference axis. (On the vehicle, it is horizontal, parallel to the median longitudinal plane of the vehicle and oriented in the required direction of visibility.) It passes through the centre of reference. The values shown in the tables give, for the various directions of measurement, the minimum intensities as a percentage of the minimum intensities required in the table in paragraph 6.1.:
    2.1.1. in the direction H = 0 degrees and V = 0 degrees for categories 1, 1a, 1b, 2a, 2b, 3 and in the case of category 4 to the front only;
    2.1.2. in the direction H = 5 degrees and V = 0 degrees for category 6.
    2.2. Within the field of light distribution of paragraph 2., schematically shown as a grid, the light pattern should be substantially uniform, i.e. in so far as the light intensity in each direction of a part of the field formed by the grid lines shall meet at least the lowest minimum value being shown on the grid lines surrounding the questioned direction as a percentage.
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  14. spikie

    spikie ZER0PSI

  15. waynoz

    waynoz New Member

  16. ABZ300

    ABZ300 G

    Getting it engineered wouldnt be cheap :(

    Abraham
     
  17. waynoz

    waynoz New Member

    you might not be wrong..

    Im thinking that this might not be the best idea after all..
     

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