Z32 It's Sad Day for me and Z guys

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by ADAMZX, Nov 15, 2021.

  1. lidz

    lidz Well-Known Member

    What about just getting it repaired by 'Z-Shop' in Glen Iris?

    I did when I had a prang many years back (not at fault, full comp insurance). Just had the car taken to them, they did all the quoting, have a huge amount of spares on site & can source anything they didn't & then they organised the painting through a trusted spray shop.

    Possibly worth giving them a ring for a chat at least. Don't try to get the car home & repair yourself mate, it'll will end up taking ages, just find a good repairer your comfortable with & let them sort it. I'm sure Shannons can recommend plenty too themselves.
     
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  2. ADAMZX

    ADAMZX 2000spec Conversion

    I didnt know z shop handled repairs i thought they were just a mechanic shop. I will definately give them a call and see what they say, thanks again tim for the suggestion
     
  3. lidz

    lidz Well-Known Member

    They certainly did mine fine but obviously outsourced any painting & bodywork, that was quite a while back but definitely worth asking the question mate.
    Good luck!
     
  4. ADAMZX

    ADAMZX 2000spec Conversion

    well unfortunately everyone it looks like they will not be repairing my car. I got a phone call today from the repairer who told me the salvage price for the car ended up being $4000 and he would be quoting $12k for the repairs with $7k in parts and in his opinion he suggested to me to ring shannons and settle asap.

    So its now over, I am awaiting comfirmation from shannons on what kind of writeoff they will make the car, I pray an "ecomonical writeoff" is made meaning It can be fixed but its too expensive for them to fix it and then I hope I can choose to buy the car back minus the buy back fee and use the rest of the payout money to fix it myself.

    It has been a terrible experience to go through this whole thing and though i have the support of my wife and kids I have abused that support with verbal abuse and lashing our to which I am deeply ashamed of my actions I am very lucky to have a wife that has put up with me all these years and not to mention how scared my kids were of me during those outbursts.

    Anyways now that the end of this ordeal with the insurance compnay is coming to a close I feel a massive relif and a huge weight has lifted off my shoulders. I know rebuilding this car wont be easy but I believe my Dad and I have the experience and the know how to fix it ourselves and i no longer have to abid by any timeframe or anyones idea of whats finanically acceptable to fix this car back to new again.

    I want to thank everyone for all your advice and suggestions most importantly the support you have given me has helped me through this tough time along with my wife who I have hurt emotional in ways no wife should have to endure.

    This may prompt me to finally start a build thread so you all can follow me on this journey together.
     
  5. woofer

    woofer Active Member

    Good Luck with whatever outcome you are able to facilitate...:)

    PLEASE remember one thing... NO "possession" in what ever form it takes, is as valuable as the wellbeing of family members ...this is something you should always cherish!! :)

    Again.... Good Luck with your ' Z "..
     
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  6. lidz

    lidz Well-Known Member

    Bugger Adam, sorry to hear mate.
    Hopefully you can get it back yourself cheaply & get stuck into it, and yes a build thread is bloody overdue!
     
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  7. geron

    geron National Petroleum Equipm

    12K to repair? Either there must be lots of damage to the front end or they have overpriced the job to ensure there's no loss to them and this prices you out of the equation. What is the JUSTIFICATION? Is there a quote list with parts breakdown and labor?

    Like I said, most panel beaters are like robots with blinkers on, you really need to know someone that can actually take on special jobs like this, I mean, your car is not a Corolla, in and out job in 5 minutes.

    Someone has to take the front bar off and check out the extent of the damage and if it's really worth repairing or not.
    First, try to find out from Nissan what is available and the price.
    Second, if not from Nissan, can you come up with second hand parts from the Z community. Put out a wanted list.
    What I can think of is a second hand bonnet and guards and lights.
    New metal panels will be the radiator support and headlight platforms which are supplied as complete units LHS and RHS ready to weld in from Nissan, unless if they are no longer available.

    All this depends on the panel beater's willingness to assist or negotiate with Shannon's.
    It's actually not a good look for Shannon's IMO, knowing that they are in this type of car scene where they are not dealing with Corollas and that's why people insure with them.
     
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  8. geron

    geron National Petroleum Equipm

    Perhaps this panel beater is like most 'clueless' mechanics, they look at the Z32 and it automatically falls into the TOO HARD basket without even trying anything.

    Either you go to someone that specializes on cars such as these or do the work yourself.
     
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  9. geron

    geron National Petroleum Equipm

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  10. Martin Williams

    Martin Williams Well-Known Member

    Good luck Adam. I know how low you can feel, my pride and joy race car was written off at Willowbank. Unfortunately I didnt have the support that you obviously have.
     
  11. ADAMZX

    ADAMZX 2000spec Conversion

    You are correct on all counts im afraid, I knew this was exactly what was going to happen and this is why I was stressing out so much because I knew that there was no chance this was going to get repaired and every effort I tried to make was a complete waste of time and though I feel shafted by the repair shop who I saw and who ultimately didnt give a f about this repair quote at all imo, shannons is to blame as well. In my opinion this repair should have only be given to a workshop who wanted to take on the repair and not given to the repairer. the system is not there to help the customer like me its there to help the insurance company and the repairer make money and I can't really blame them thats how the whole thing works and though it sucks there is nothing I can do to change it.

    $12k for this repair, is the repairers way of saying I'll replace the entire front end of the car if you pay me the money Ill take it and only fix what needs to be fixed and pocket the rest. Its a classic example of I dont care I dont want to fix it but if you pay me ill fix it and make a profit. And this is why I hate panel beating as an industry and as a group because they cant be trusted to do a job without massively benefiting themselves regardless of who they benefit from.

    Anyways it is what it is and there is nothing I can do to change it, I havent heard from shannons yet but I am so ready to take that call when it comes and say give me my money now and I want my car back to them and get started on the repair rebuild of this car with a renewed sense of enthusiasm as now I can not just repair this car back to what it once was, I can finally install parts that I have been storing for years and add to the perfection of my Z32 dream build I have always wanted make. Its like I now have the opportunity to be able to build this car like I did before but this time with more experience and more knowledge to build it better then before.
     
  12. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    Is it insured for market value or is that $13k you mentioned an agreed value on your policy?
     
  13. ADAMZX

    ADAMZX 2000spec Conversion

    Agreed. It started off at $15k intially when it was with just cars and then when shannons took my policy on after just cars folded they agreed to keep that value even with all the mods i had but said they normally wouldnt insure me if i was a new customer. Over the years the value has dropped to what it is now at 13k.
     
  14. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    Ah that's a shame... sounds like best bet is to exercise salvage rights (which should be applicable on your policy) and set about repairing it yourself. As a commercial job the numbers just don't stack at that price but with the car back and $9k in your pocket (assuming that the salvage value you mentioned above comes off the payout price) it's a much better prospect.
     
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  15. ADAMZX

    ADAMZX 2000spec Conversion

    Yeah this is exactly what im expecting shannons to do and offer me. Ill update everyone when they do.

    Ill post photos of the damage tomorrow.
     
  16. geron

    geron National Petroleum Equipm

    If it's an 'insurance write-off' and you wish to re-register the car, speak with RMS before touching it.
    There's a PITA process you need to go through where I believe an inspection of the damage needs to take place and then approval will be given to repair the vehicle. After that, a follow-up inspection is required to ensure the repairs are acceptable and then it will be approved for rego. Will require photos, etc...

    When you get the car back, don't touch it until you speak with RMS first. Enquire with RMS about the process now and learn about it and take it from there, I suggest.

    If it can be repaired, the good thing is after that process, you will know that it will be back to 100%.
     
  17. geron

    geron National Petroleum Equipm

    What I would like to emphasize is that your car won't be approved for rego if the repair isn't 100%.

    They are very picky to ensure the repair is not botched and the vehicle is safe to get back on the road.
    If it is repaired, make sure all welds and workmanship is rust proofed well to ensure no rust sets in after a few years and compromises the repair, it will look ugly and devalue the car.
     
  18. ADAMZX

    ADAMZX 2000spec Conversion

    Good information to know, a quick google search found one of these RMS places in Preston, so I might give them a call and see what they say and go from there.
     
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  19. ADAMZX

    ADAMZX 2000spec Conversion

    I totally understand that and I have no intentions of bodging this repair up to save money or anything and I do intend to repair as much of the work myself and if needed, Ill outsource help from professional if required.

    I've checked both COZ and Z1 who both have a listing and supply of new and used radiator support panels and headlight tubs I can easily order online and ship over to simply replaced the old panels with good undamaged ones. I dont know if a frame machine can be used to bend the panels back into place as another option to consider but I would need to first speak to a panel shop I trust before taking that option if it can be done at all.

    Its all just theroy for me right now, Ive watch enough GOONZQUAD to know panels can be removed and replaced with the right tools and proper workmanship.
     
  20. ADAMZX

    ADAMZX 2000spec Conversion

    Ok sorry this took so long to post more detailed photos of the damage. So here you go.

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