NA Track Car

Discussion in 'Member's Garage' started by Peter Black, Feb 11, 2011.

  1. WYKKED

    WYKKED <b><font color=red>2 Much Trouble</font></b>

    I think you will find that CAMS regulations state that openings inside the vehicle that a drivers arm could get lodged in need to be covered (to prevent your arm being ripped off in a roll over). And depending on which category you are racing in some require the retention of "door trims", there is a reason why the V8 teams go to the trouble of making carbon fiber door trims.
     
  2. Peter Black

    Peter Black Active Member

    Yeah, depending on what class I end up settling on I'll gut them and either put very thin sheets of something light like aluminium on them or the minimum amount of the door trim that is required to meet the regulations.

    It may well end up getting logged as a sports car to be able to do all teh wierd and wonderful stuff I would like to do, it wont be super competitive in a class like that but for most of the things I'd be doing like MSCA and the NDSOC/FPV events that would not matter.
     
  3. Peter Black

    Peter Black Active Member

    Solid mounts?

    Finally an update, been doing a few boring tidying up things and working on a lot of non-car stuff, I made a pretty cool pond in the back yard!

    Taught myself to weld and made a bench and a stand for a banch grinder which should make a lot of jobs much easier too.

    I've also got my hands on a VG30 for the right price so that will be going in it for now. The engine mounts are well and truely destroyed so I was thinking it might be a good time to go solid monts and do the rear subframe while I'm at it. I'm assuming solid engine mounts have to be custom made, what about subframe mounts, does anyone do a kit with solid mounts? I assume there is no point in a solid gearbox mount?
     
  4. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

    EVERY point in a solid gearbox mount to go along with solid fronts. Youll break the solid fronts allowing the back of the engine to wag around.
    Benefits of solids? Not known. I dont see any problem tho. Ive raced an MG Midget/Sprite hybrid with a "B" series engine and Cortina gearbox bolted in solid. Almost removes your teeth fillings from your head but it matters not in a track car.

    Just replace the curerent rubber mounts with box section steel. Easy.
    Those old single stick VG's are pretty breathless tho compared to the VGDE. Youll learn to dislike it fairly smartly. Its quite a difference.
    VGDE mounts wont bolt straight on to VG but you should be able to grub out the bolt holes to suit. About 5mm each way. Youll see. No brainer.
    Im pretty sure COZ does solid subframe replacements. Ive seen them on here for sale S/H in the past.
    Have fun
    E
     
  5. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    Z1 does solid alloy engine mounts if I recall correctly. Solid subframe mounts are common and haven't seen a solid gearbox mount, but they'd be pretty easy to fab up.
     
  6. Peter Black

    Peter Black Active Member

    Yep, found them on the new and improved Coz website too, not sure if they were not on the old one or I just could not find them. Seems odd that everyone has the solid engine mounts but no-one has the gearbox mounts.
     
  7. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    The may consider the NISMO mounts solid enough. But kart-boy is right, you don't want a mix of soft and solid mounts in the drivetrain.
     
  8. Peter Black

    Peter Black Active Member

    Makes sense, I guess the best way to make a solid gearbox mount would be to replace the bit of rubber in my old one with a similar shape bit of alloy.

    Worth it do you think?
     
  9. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    absolutely.
     
  10. Peter Black

    Peter Black Active Member

    Sounds good, besides, if this thing is in any way comfortable to drive when we're done we have clearly failed somewhere...
     
  11. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

  12. Peter Black

    Peter Black Active Member

    Are all solid mounts as good as each other? I'm pretty sure Coz and/or Z1 have them slightly cheaper than that but if those ones are special it's probably worth a few extra dollars.

    Gearbox mounts seem easy enough, tube or a small block of alloy?

     
  13. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    nothing special about solid engine mounts assuming all dimensions are equal.
     
  14. Peter Black

    Peter Black Active Member

    Thought so, thanks.
     
  15. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

    Fancy looking mounts but why pay for something when a simple chunk of thick walled box section mild will do the trick?
    Cost you SFA apart from... what? 10 minutes to drill 2 holes and whack in your bolts??

    I know which way Id be going.
    Who gives a toss about what stuff like engine mounts looks like in a race car....?? Spray them red for that cool "race" look!!!!

    L8r
    E
     
  16. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    For an engine mount? I get the box section for tranny mount, but not for an engine mount...
     
  17. Sanouske

    Sanouske Retired Moderator

    Why not? If it were 5 or 6 mm thick walled box tube, it would hold up quiet well. Would be terribly rough if the engine wasnt completely balanced, but there wouldnt be any reason why it wouldnt work fine for this purpose.
     
  18. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

    What HE said.
    L8r
    E
     
  19. lidz

    lidz Well-Known Member

    just saw this on yahoo auctions Pete & thought it might appeal, original Border rear strut brace with mounts for race harnesses clicky

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    if your interested I'd get Jesse Streeter to give you a quote, should be a little cheaper.

    cheers, Tim
     
  20. Peter Black

    Peter Black Active Member

    Thanks, I'm aiming to get that stuff incorporated into the cage so I won't get that one but I'll save the images just incase that doesn't work out and I need to make something like that up.



     

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