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  1. Wizard

    Wizard Kerb side Prophet

  2. silver300zx

    silver300zx New Member

    very impressive gain , how much does this fuel cost ?

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  3. Wizard

    Wizard Kerb side Prophet

    Fuel

    Was $7.50 a litre back in march when this was done.

     
  4. Zanjara

    Zanjara Free Candy!

    Wow that is awesome as!!! Well done :) Good to see things like this and back to back dyno runs to prove it all :)
     
  5. scump

    scump John Dorian

    lol thats awesome!

    i remember once on NS i read some guys profile, he had 180sx dynod back to back with different fuels, astounding difference in power... he had one big turbo.

    top power was like 400rwkw not sure what fuel
    then it was like 360rwkw usin less spensive fuel
    then it was 320rwkw using 98ron


    i was like...goddam i didnt know fuel done so much! now of course im like, well duh.
     
  6. ports

    ports the pro

    Well done Ron!
    It was a good nite at WSID when we went head to head and
    we both hit PB's.
    ps; no bling shots for the mag?

     
  7. black baz

    black baz black 'n blue Bazemy

    congrats, ron .. impressive comparison....!!!

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  8. Egg

    Egg ....

    Good result....

    ...but that's expensive, especially as you need to tune and retune back to 98RON.
    What did you do when it ran out? Just use 98RON and drive like a granny till you could retune?
    Kinda curious how a strong mix of methyl benzene would go in our Z's, and whether this is financially or technically viable.
    Good result though, Ron.
    Egg

     
  9. Wizard

    Wizard Kerb side Prophet

    Granny driving

    Exactly Paul,
    Drove to the drags with a next to empty tank, put 20 litres of Martini 110 in, used that for five runs, limped home off boost and back to the dyno next day to get detuned.
    Good fun and worth the effort, any thing with over 400hp at the wheels is a serious car to drive.
    Would still like to be running on it, but 72 litres x $7.5 = $540 per tankfull, is a bit more than i can afford.
     
  10. ice

    ice ice maaaaaaan

    LOL!

    yea just a bit :D lol $$$$$$$$$$$$
     
  11. XTREME ZX

    XTREME ZX ZED Xtremist

    Bit late

    But a big congrats Ron... Even without the martini 110 you have very impressive times and rwkw. you should be the benchmark for all HAHA.!

    Tezza

     
  12. zx299

    zx299 Well-Known Member

    Re : Granny driving

    Geez Ron, that Martini stuff is even dearer than 98RON in Whoop Whoop Central [​IMG]
     
  13. UNIQUE ZED

    UNIQUE ZED Zed Racing World

    Compared to what though

    Compared to C16 which is nasty 6% lead and NO oxygen and cost a bit more. This stuff makes slightly more power with less timing and runs cooler and safer and road legal so no comparison. C16 is banned in circuit and still legal just in drags but requires a fuel log book etc and illegal to drive to drags and not good for cat converters or 02 sensors.
    We found on the slot car compared to C16 back to back made 10rwkw more with 5 degrees less timing and ran cooler. I will never use C16 again. I also checked out the specs including specific gravity which is the main one and came out on top. It?s way better than any other unleaded fuel and slightly better than the nasty illegal stuff. But yes compared to pump gas expensive but on the other hand cheapest power you will get bang for buck other than NOS.

    Unleaded Race Fuels

    Fuel Brand RON MON Oxygen Specific Gravity
    Martini M102 101.9 90 2.7% 0.775
    Martini M110 109.6 100 3.5% 0.840

    Fuel Brand RON MON Oxygen Specific Gravity
    ELF LMS 101.2 89.4 2.5% 0.765
    ELF TURBO MAX 102.0 88.0 3.6% 0.779
    ELF WRF 101.6 89.4 2.6% 0.763
    ELF EURO CIK 101.7 89.4 1.8% 0.757
    SUNOCO GT 100 105 95 3.5% 0.764
    SUNOCO GT PLUS 109 99 4.5% 0.746
    SUNOCO EURO 101 90 3.7% 0.754
    SUNOCO 111 117 105 ? 0.725
    SUNOCO 112 115 109 ? 0.715
    SUNOCO 117 121 113 ? 0.700
    VP MOTORSPORT 103 107 99 ? 0.744
    VP MOTORSPORT 109 109 101 ? 0.722
    VP PERFORMANCE ? 99 ? 0.800
    VP MS932 ? 90.1 ? 0.716
    VP PWC-B ? 93.6 ? 0.743
    VP Unleaded 104 96 ? 0.735
    VP SVO5 106 98 4.7% 0.745

    Leaded Race Fuels

    Fuel Brand RON MON Oxygen Specific Gravity % Lead
    ELF 124 124 110 2.7% 0.72 1.5
    VP RED 110 105 0.734 4.23
    VP C11 108 104 0.71 ?
    VP C12 110 108 0.717 4.23
    VP C14 116 114 0.69 4.20
    VP C14+ 117 115 0.69 6.00
    VP C15 117 115 0.713 4.20
    VP C16 118 117 0.733 6.00
    VP C18 116 116 0.704 4.23
    VP C19 116 116 0.695 ?
    VP C21 119 118 0.708 ?
    VP C23 119 119 0.708 ?
    VP C25 115 113 0.695 ?
    VP A5 100.8 88.6 0.7439 0.001
    VP A7 100.8 88.6 0.7439 0.001
    VP F1 99.8 86.3 0.7439 0.001
     

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