Zero Boost

Discussion in 'Technical' started by kingspikey69, Dec 26, 2009.

  1. kingspikey69

    kingspikey69 New Member

    Hey guys

    Having boost problems with my Zed

    No matter how i drive i cant seem to get any sort of boost
    the aftermarket gauge reaches to 0 max

    at idle its reading negative boost which is normal as there is still vacuum
    while accelerating it climbs to 0 mark and that's how far it will go

    i ran a ecu diagnotisc test
    and got code 55 which is no error found

    so i dunno what it could cause this

    even in safety/limp mode should i at least get some sort of boost?

    i dunno how the aftermarket gauge is installed, even if the factory boost solenoid is disconnected will this cause this problem or should i still get some boost? i dun have any sort of boost controller installed atm

    or can this be from a faulty boost gauge?

    theres no smoke of any sort coming out of the exhaust
    and i can hear the turbo spooling

    any help will be appreciated
     
  2. zedaphobic

    zedaphobic Member

    Google it

    Plenty of other car forums with this issue. Everything from Stuck wastegates to blocked cats. Maybe some of the regulars might be able to offer some suggestions as well.

    Regards
    Stephan.
     
  3. zed4life (zedcare.com)

    zed4life (zedcare.com) Ω vicarious zedder Ω

    Does your factory boost gauge get into

    the +'ive section on RHS?

    Ifso, then your after-market gauge is faulty or more likely a leak/break in the vac line leading to the after-market gauge.

    First things first I reckon with these sorts of things. Anything new that has been installed would be the 1st thing to check for problems. If you get no boost reading from either gauge, then look for more exotic fixes like wastegates stuck

    PS: safety boost or even boost solenoids disconnected should still give you ~ 7PSI
     
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2009
  4. kingspikey69

    kingspikey69 New Member

    sorry what do u mean by +'ive

    not up to this level of abbreviation
     
  5. aazn

    aazn New Member

    means positive.
     
  6. zed4life (zedcare.com)

    zed4life (zedcare.com) Ω vicarious zedder Ω

    apologies ...

    tech shorthand is as bad as SMS shorthand. :rolleyes:

    +'ive = positive - as in more than zero PSI


     
  7. kingspikey69

    kingspikey69 New Member

    im not sure really dun take notice of it
    if the needle goes right of the middles means im getting boost and my aftermarket gauge isnt reading the boost properly?

    if it doesnt wastegate must be stuck on open therfor not holding any sort of boost?

    thanks zed4life
     
  8. mafi-zed

    mafi-zed the resident hoon

    or you have a massive boost leak somewhere which would be more probable than your waste gate being stuck open.
     
  9. zed4life (zedcare.com)

    zed4life (zedcare.com) Ω vicarious zedder Ω

    Yep

    correct.

    Maybe. But you should check easier things such as turbo inlet/outlet piping loose etc first for loose clamps. Although it would have to be a pretty huge leak to get zero boost...

    You need a baseline before you do anything. Ensure the factory gauge works first. Does your factory boost/vac guage work at all?

    IE: Does the needle swing below zero when car is idling or light throttle?

    Ifnot- check the vac lines leading to it from the boost guage sensor near fusible links near drivers side corner of engine bay.

    If so, does needle swing into the positive under load?

    Ifso, then the problem is your new guage...
     
  10. kingspikey69

    kingspikey69 New Member

    its not ur fault i didnt read ur post's title

    it made more sense if i put them together lol

    guess next thing to do i run a boost leak test

    cheers
     
  11. zed4life (zedcare.com)

    zed4life (zedcare.com) Ω vicarious zedder Ω

    Hold on ...

    read my post above or here. You need to establish a baseline before you do anything else in my opinion.

     
  12. kingspikey69

    kingspikey69 New Member

    will do your checklist once this rainy weather is cleared

    dun u love queensland summer weather lol
     
  13. kingspikey69

    kingspikey69 New Member

    sorry for the double post
    took the car for a test drive

    confirmed that my factory boost gauge does not move at all
    its just sits pretty much at the 0 mark all the time no matter if idle or accelerating

    but my aftermarket gauge shows vaccum but no boost after 0

    any ideas?
     
  14. Madcow

    Madcow Active Member

    verify the car accaully has turbos :eek:
     
  15. cleary

    cleary New Member

    you sure you didnt buy an N/A..? just putting it out there
     
  16. kingspikey69

    kingspikey69 New Member

    yes im sure
    its moves slightly right but nothing big
    not even 1 psi i think

    now my automatic transmission is playing up
    bloody great
     
  17. zed4life (zedcare.com)

    zed4life (zedcare.com) Ω vicarious zedder Ω

    OK So you have a baseline

    the factory boost gauge pipe is prob connected to the aftermarket gauge hence it works and the factory unit doesn't. This is at least progress.

    So now you have to look for massive boost leaks (ie: intercooler and turbo piping blown off -perhaps?

    Failing this, then your wastegates may indeed be stuck completely open. You need professional help here. I suggest you contact Niall (rollin) or Eric (Drz400Y). Their contact details found by searching for their posts. Usually in their signatures. Both in Brisbane and well respected. Nial is on northside, eric in southside

     
  18. a2zed

    a2zed Guest

    Has the power dropped off at all? Maybe just a dodgey gauge not showing any positive pressure.
     
  19. kingspikey69

    kingspikey69 New Member

    well this is my first zed
    so i dunno how much power these things have
    doesnt seem it lacks power
    it accelerate quite nicely

    will have to check for boost leaks

    thanks guys for your help

    now i got a bigger prob

    my auto transmission feels like its slipping
    not getting into gear properly
    will search anything similiar here and google

    cheers
     

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