T-piece... does it restrict flow??

Discussion in 'Technical' started by salvx1992, Jan 22, 2013.

  1. salvx1992

    salvx1992 Member

    so does a T-piece restrict flow, for example: if i have 2 PCV hoses from the intake rocker covers running to a T-piece then a catch-can. would that defeat the purpose of the 2 hoses seeing that it will meet in the middle and balance out into 1 hose HENCE restricting the flow????

    this seems like a question for those who can get really technical and understand there answer :confused: because i keep thinking about it in my head and im stumped
     
  2. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    Mate it's a PCV system...it doesn't matter.
     
  3. foremannz

    foremannz New Member

    From my understanding, its not under the intake plenum pressure - its more of a safety system to prevent the build up of air pressure in the block, which could lead to too much pressure in the sump, blowing out the dip stick and pushing oil out the crank seals. It has no impact on performance of the engine as such ...
     
  4. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    Strictly speaking a T will always restrict flow.

    PCV flow is so small (assuming no busted rings etc) that it will be negligible in this application.

    In high volume liquid and gas flow tee's are pretty horrible when it comes to losses.

    Here is a overview of pipe losses:

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  5. bRACKET

    bRACKET Do Right Dean

    If your that worried use a Y piece, won't make a difference though.
     
  6. andy

    andy Member

    If the combined flow rate of the two pipes merging into a single pipe is greater than the flow rate of the single pipe then flow will be restricted.

    The next question is why are there two hoses? Is it because they needed to vent from two different places or was it for flow or both.

    You could connect a spare boost gauge to the dipstick tube with a hose long enough to reach into the cabin and take the car for a drive to test your setup. If the gauge ever reads positive then you have a problem.
     
  7. warren300

    warren300 SLICKTOP TT

    The factory hoses have a plug in them with what looks like a 3mm hole so i don't see how a larger diameter hose or T peice will cause problems
     
  8. 260DET

    260DET Active Member

    My VG has a similar engine breather setup to yours except that the two hoses run separately into the catch can. So no T piece. Mine is mainly a turbo race engine though so breathing is quite important so as to not pressurise the engine internally and push oil out through seals.

    If you have only one inlet into the catch can then all you can do is use a Y piece as bRacket suggested. It will help a bit.
     
  9. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

    I really can believe that this is actually a discussion point.
    Just connect the frikken hoses up and close the bonnet M8.
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  10. zx299

    zx299 Well-Known Member

    Lol... he must have left the rings out of his motor.....

    He has so much blowby gas that he's worried about restriction at the hose connection :eek:

    Under all conditions except WOT, the hoses you're talking about carry a vacuum. So your setup would be drawing air from your catch can, which would make your single hose the possible restriction.

    At WOT the blowby gases will flow in the reverse direction (into the catch can), but in a healthy motor the pressure would amount to 3 poofteenths of SFA :cool:
     
  11. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

    AND, if the PCV valve is fitted and working, it acts as a checkvalve to prevent boost pressure from blowing backwards thru the system and pressurising the sump!!!

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  12. salvx1992

    salvx1992 Member

    who said i had blowby??? with all the parts in my engine i can put some extra time into the way it breaths as its crucial to get the right setup when this things goes on track at phillip island.
     
  13. 260DET

    260DET Active Member

    You are doing the right thing. To build a good track car requires attention to detail, something some people are not aware of apparently.
     

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