P plate - turbo's

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by Kai, Dec 18, 2011.

  1. Kai

    Kai New Member

    A few questions, safety features, p plate and approx costs involved

    Hey guys just a few questions id like answsred if you have the time , thanks in advance :)

    If i was to buy a TT and remove the turbo's would that do any damage to the motor in any shape or form?
    Would it be P plater compatable?
    and would i then be able to put the turbo's back in at a later date?

    Also i have a broken back in L1 - L3 and the wife wants to know what safety features the z has, possibly its safety rating? or at least a good general idea about the efficiancy of its safety features....kinda funny cos i could be in a crash while driving a tank and still be screwed :-D joking

    Completely optional this next question, but what sort of condition zx would i get for the $10 - 13,000 dollar mark? id realy rather have a car that hasnt been thrashed and that i could get a good life out of, is this asking a bit much at that price? mostvof the z's ive seen yhat are in good cond are 15,000 plus :-( wanna be able to have a beaut zx in the driveway, allways been the dream :-D
     
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  2. Swifty Devil

    Swifty Devil Member

    This question has been asked a million times..... please use the search function.

    You cant simply remove the turbos without losing MASSIVE amounts of power

    (way less than if you bought a non-turbo to begin with) not only that, the rear differential is geared for a turbo engine and as a result will make the car even slower...

    Its still registered as a turbo and will be listed as illegal if the police pull you over.

    as well as the fact that it will go as slow as a commodore and chew more fuel than a v8....

    A 300zx N/A is no slouch infact they are quite quick regardless of what people tell you. buy one, then upgrade to a TT.

    EDIT: you can get a great N/A for under 10k thats unmolested, just take one for a test drive you'll soon find if the seating position and the way it handles has any effect on your back problems.
     
  3. ryzan

    ryzan Moderator Staff Member

    Don't bother mucking around trying to remove turbos and whatnot, will require an engine pull just to get the turbos off, then you will have something that's slower than a non turbo 300zx. Ehy not just buy an na then sell it when you're off your P's?

    As for their safety features, they're nothing in comparison to the cars of today which have 20 years technology over a 300. That said, there have been several cars that have been known to the forum roll, and the drivers have excaped relatively unharmed (read: alive) even from high speed accidents. If safety is your main priority though, buy something newer with a 5 star ancap rating.

    As for your price bracket, you should be able to get a fairly good na or tt for that price. Keep in mind though that most will need a major 100k service and plenum pull to keep them reliable, along with other bits and pieces that wear out due to the age of the cars. I have had my mint na up for sale for a while within your price bracket but have recently decided that I will probably end up keeping it. They do come up from time to time though, as long as you don't rush out and buy the first one you see you should be able to get a good, clean example. Hope this helps.
     
  4. Kai

    Kai New Member

    yeah sorry bout that i havnt been online for ages i forgot bout the search function.
    Thanks for your reply though, i didnt know that about the dramatic loss of power i was just thinking buy the lot, take it out and re- install it later on when i can run it. Although power isnt my main attraction to this car in particular so its not all that big a deal. Would it still do fine as a around town car and get me to work? (20 min trip along a highway next to no traffic) and then re-gain that power when i put the turbo's back in?
     
  5. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

    No. It would be shit. That's why nobody ever, ever does it.
     
  6. Kai

    Kai New Member

    Cheers mate for your reply there :)
    Buying and selling is a pain as i want 1 z, as a working project car to hold onto for a while, is it much of a pain to add turbo's to a NA? probly wouldnt end up doing it anyway but doesnt hurt to ask.
    Good point on the safety features, actually went and bought one of the brand new Ford Territory's last month with all the safety features ect, but tjats the family car and the heart wpants what it wants aye hahaha.
    Good to hear theres a few out there about where im willing to spend in good nick, The costs involveef to keep it tip top arnt a problem as long as i deem it worth it, just another of lifes neccesities realy. I keep all my cars serviced on time or at least about the right time anyway :)
     
  7. Mr 0uch

    Mr 0uch Bare footed zman

    If you want a n/a buy an n/a. TT motors run a lower compression ratio to the n/a motor, to compensate for the large amount of pressurised air being pushed into the motor. so if you were to remove the turbo there would be less air being compressed inside the engine at a lower pressure. Making the car about as useful as a expensive paper weight.

    If your really keen buy a n/a and drive that till your able to own a turbo. That's what im doing. N/A 300zx's are not sluggish by any means, If drags are your thing my n/a will 9 times out of 10 leave a V8 falcodore behind.
     
  8. ryzan

    ryzan Moderator Staff Member

    Buy project turbo Z, drive territory until off your P's.

    Problem solved.

    On a car like ours that is so cramped and complex in the engine bay there is a lot of work involved to either remove or add turbos, so unless you are experienced and are confident you can do 99% of the work yourself it is easier and cheaper to just upgrade once you're off your P's.
     
  9. Swifty Devil

    Swifty Devil Member

    i like your enthusiasm :) you can always get an N/A then put the turbo motor in later...

    its a common swap, many members here have performed it, that way you can work on the all the other mechanicals/cosmetics until your off your p's then put a motor from a Twin turbo in :)
     
  10. SRB-2NV

    SRB-2NV #TEAMROB

    Just buy my NA, its faster than most of the others and isn't too far behind a stock TT.
     
  11. gmbrezzo

    gmbrezzo Moderator

    If you are not chasing HP or track times then an NA will fit the bill perfectly.
    10K will get you a reasonable TT but will still require spanner time and more money to get it to perfection.
    Where as 10k will get you a near perfect condition NA.
    As the guys here have said NAs are still very quick and also look as good.
    If you want quick then look at SRB-2NV car. Don't know about the body or interior, but he knows how to get an NA up and going.

    The only thing you can see under the bonnet on TT, are the two extra pipes on the side for the TTs. you can't even see the turbos.
    An NA will still round up a semi (truck) in under 6 sec from a dead start (100kph), and give you a semi with that much grunt.
    less time on the other side of the road = safer.

    TTs can also be a PITA sometimes. A mate of mine is on his 3rd set in a 2yrs period.
    he like to wind up the boost and hit warp2.5, but then again he is middle age like myself.

    You are on your Ps so would advise, take your time and gain some valuable driving experience.
    You can still get the admiration and the respect in an NA. I have 2 of em and don't want to TT them.

    You have back problems then another good reason to get an NA is the TT guys drop coilover suspention in them to stiffen the ride to improve the handling to match the HP.
    Stiff suspention will will kill your back.
    I have impacted vert and a good quality "racing" bucket seat with mild suspention is a pleasure to drive long distances, and still handles well at semi high speed.

    You'll gain more respect being an experienced and safe driver that a super fast hoon.
     
  12. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

    Hey Gra, you forgot to mention that your eyesight is shot to ribbons, as well.:p:zlove::br::rofl::rofl:
     
  13. SRB-2NV

    SRB-2NV #TEAMROB

    Yeah an NA has more than enough power to get you into trouble especially on your P plates. Learn to walk before you can run.
     
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  14. MoulaZX

    MoulaZX #TEAMROB

    I went from a 1.8L Manual EXA to my first RWD & Turbo Car (the Zed)... guess I did it the stupid way eh? :p :rofl:

    To echo others in the thread, the NA Zeds do have a good bit of grunt and will still get you smiling if you lay into the throttle. To be honest if I had an NA Zed I would have been more inclined to thrash it because the power band is so much more useable / predictable / tamer then a TT, there isn't that impending doom of boost coming on at the wrong time and throwing your ass into a pole if you're not used to it, heh.

    I drove my first NA Zed 2 years after I bought my TT and I was still super excited over it. Was still a lot of fun to drive, just make sure its a Manual! :D

    MoulaZX
     
  15. Shifter

    Shifter Active Member

    You can have the fastest car in the world

    You'll only be as quick as the car in front of you......

    and only go around as fast as what the speed limit says you can go (provided you have more than 1 brain cell)

    Like others said, the car is still listed as a TT, turbos or not. Still illegal. Get an NA. They are good too :cool::zlove:


     
  16. SRB-2NV

    SRB-2NV #TEAMROB

    Nah Emile, from what i've seen you're a pretty good driver so i'd say your an exception :p Oh by the way, you still need to take my zed for a spin to see for yourself, gotta wait for the rain to die down though :br:
     
  17. Kai

    Kai New Member

    i dont care about the power the only reason i want a TT was because it would be an option down the track. Thanks for the advice guys looks like ill start the hunt for a Na.

    One more thing, how common is it to find a non-targa top in years after say, 1993 upwards?
     
  18. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    Rare as. My zed was a '93 non turbo slicktop manual before I fiddled with it. I have seen less than 10 kicking around that age or newer in Aus.
     
  19. Kai

    Kai New Member

    bugga that puts a douse of water on that idea then, unless i get lucky
     
  20. gmbrezzo

    gmbrezzo Moderator

    Good on ya.
    Now my secret is out. :)
    Have a very merry christmas you and lyn.
     

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